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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2007/03/30/reverse-globalization/#comment-95705</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lend Lease was real Free Trade and not chopped liver as in the Globalist World - see http://ezinearticles.com/?id=390710 This is the most popular articles in a series of articles about Globalization and Free Trade at http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=Ray_Tapajna

The Lend Lease Act was set up by President Roosevelt who said he would not let the dollar get in his way to help the allies in World War 2.  He pumped up the industrial might of the U.S. prior to declaring war and supplied England , France and Russia with goods. It demonstrated that you can not do business with people who do not have money. You first have to find a way to grow money  in some value added fashion. As we know, the U.S. came out of World War 2 with the most awesome industrial power the world has ever known. It backed up the Marshall Plan which restored local value added economies in Europe and Asia. It was economically artifical but it worked for a long time.  However, for some reason in 1956, the U.S. Federal Government itself  sponsored the moving of factories outside the USA which later evolved into what is called Free Trade today. It was really all about moving production from place to place for the sake of the cheapest labor possible. We chopped up the Golden Goose that layed the Golden Eggs. Who said we had to compete like this- see http://ezinarticles.com/?id=541566

However, with Free Trade and Globalization, people without money are used for selfish interests.  The only variable in the process is the cost of labor. Workers are traded on a world trading block to compete down to the lowest levels of wage slave and even child labor. Reverse Globalization is an odd thing to call this attack on the value of work relating to workers' dignity.

For more information, see Tapart News and Art that Talks at http://tapsearch.com/tapartnews and http://tapsearch.com/flatworld from the perspective of the streets of USA where human dignity in the workday has been compromised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lend Lease was real Free Trade and not chopped liver as in the Globalist World - see <a href="http://ezinearticles.com/?id=390710" rel="nofollow">http://ezinearticles.com/?id=390710</a> This is the most popular articles in a series of articles about Globalization and Free Trade at <a href="http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=Ray_Tapajna" rel="nofollow">http://ezinearticles.com/?expert=Ray_Tapajna</a></p>
<p>The Lend Lease Act was set up by President Roosevelt who said he would not let the dollar get in his way to help the allies in World War 2.  He pumped up the industrial might of the U.S. prior to declaring war and supplied England , France and Russia with goods. It demonstrated that you can not do business with people who do not have money. You first have to find a way to grow money  in some value added fashion. As we know, the U.S. came out of World War 2 with the most awesome industrial power the world has ever known. It backed up the Marshall Plan which restored local value added economies in Europe and Asia. It was economically artifical but it worked for a long time.  However, for some reason in 1956, the U.S. Federal Government itself  sponsored the moving of factories outside the USA which later evolved into what is called Free Trade today. It was really all about moving production from place to place for the sake of the cheapest labor possible. We chopped up the Golden Goose that layed the Golden Eggs. Who said we had to compete like this- see <a href="http://ezinarticles.com/?id=541566" rel="nofollow">http://ezinarticles.com/?id=541566</a></p>
<p>However, with Free Trade and Globalization, people without money are used for selfish interests.  The only variable in the process is the cost of labor. Workers are traded on a world trading block to compete down to the lowest levels of wage slave and even child labor. Reverse Globalization is an odd thing to call this attack on the value of work relating to workers&#8217; dignity.</p>
<p>For more information, see Tapart News and Art that Talks at <a href="http://tapsearch.com/tapartnews" rel="nofollow">http://tapsearch.com/tapartnews</a> and <a href="http://tapsearch.com/flatworld" rel="nofollow">http://tapsearch.com/flatworld</a> from the perspective of the streets of USA where human dignity in the workday has been compromised.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2007/03/30/reverse-globalization/#comment-95704</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 06:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Friedman asked for a free market. Be careful what you ask for.He assumed that the regulatory playing field was level and if not, that it would level out eventually if you let the haves  buy the idiot priced goods at a low price until the supply dried up. China's pay rates of 5% those in the west , almost free rent, virtually no IP cost or environmental controls, and people who save ,live simply and don't consume much, all combines to build a big pool of energy,ie money.It won't stay at home. China is most likely to spend its trillions of surplus on bonds and corporates. Why not?

The question I would like to know the answer to is when will the slide begin and will it end with one world wide currency? It is a small planet and there is only one species that deals in money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Friedman asked for a free market. Be careful what you ask for.He assumed that the regulatory playing field was level and if not, that it would level out eventually if you let the haves  buy the idiot priced goods at a low price until the supply dried up. China&#8217;s pay rates of 5% those in the west , almost free rent, virtually no IP cost or environmental controls, and people who save ,live simply and don&#8217;t consume much, all combines to build a big pool of energy,ie money.It won&#8217;t stay at home. China is most likely to spend its trillions of surplus on bonds and corporates. Why not?</p>
<p>The question I would like to know the answer to is when will the slide begin and will it end with one world wide currency? It is a small planet and there is only one species that deals in money.</p>
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		<title>By: RebelEconomist</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2007/03/30/reverse-globalization/#comment-95703</link>
		<dc:creator>RebelEconomist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 12:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gheorghius:  I do join you in deploring this.  It reminds me of the move on Japanese luxury cars in 1995, which as we now know, did absolutely nothing to help the US car manufacturers.  I can condemn this action no more strongly than to say that it is the sort of thing that the French would do!  (By the way, please check out my attempt to resolve your debate with Brad a couple of topics ago if you have not already seen it)

Macro Man:  Thanks for the discussion.  My intention is not that the US should beggar its neighbours, although I concede that it would be portrayed as this by some on the receiving end (eg the French!).....I am not suggesting that the US has any specific exchange rate targets, for example.  It is more that the US state should do some of the overseas saving that the US private sector is not doing (unlike in Europe).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gheorghius:  I do join you in deploring this.  It reminds me of the move on Japanese luxury cars in 1995, which as we now know, did absolutely nothing to help the US car manufacturers.  I can condemn this action no more strongly than to say that it is the sort of thing that the French would do!  (By the way, please check out my attempt to resolve your debate with Brad a couple of topics ago if you have not already seen it)</p>
<p>Macro Man:  Thanks for the discussion.  My intention is not that the US should beggar its neighbours, although I concede that it would be portrayed as this by some on the receiving end (eg the French!)&#8230;..I am not suggesting that the US has any specific exchange rate targets, for example.  It is more that the US state should do some of the overseas saving that the US private sector is not doing (unlike in Europe).</p>
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		<title>By: bsetser</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2007/03/30/reverse-globalization/#comment-95702</link>
		<dc:creator>bsetser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 10:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LC -- the ADB reports that on a broad basis, China's real exchange actually depreciated in 06, as the appreciation v. the $ didn't offset the $'s depreciation (and lower Chinese inflation than US inflation).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LC &#8212; the ADB reports that on a broad basis, China&#8217;s real exchange actually depreciated in 06, as the appreciation v. the $ didn&#8217;t offset the $&#8217;s depreciation (and lower Chinese inflation than US inflation).</p>
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		<title>By: Macro Man</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2007/03/30/reverse-globalization/#comment-95701</link>
		<dc:creator>Macro Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gheorghius, of course it's a stupid thing to do.  I doubt  there's much debate about that outside of Washington and the Acme paper Company.

RE has suggest one form of beggar-thy-neighbour policy, US intervention to weaken the $.  For better (or, more to the point) for worse, the government has decided on another beggar-thy-neighbour strategy, one that is more likely to win votes next autumn.

A common standard is most likely to be reached in some sort of multilateral forum.  Unfortunately, the largest surplus holders are either not members (G7) or marginalized (IMF) at the obvious options.  It will be curious to see if the IMF tries to grab the reins next month like they appeared to do last April...by now all of the bilateral are completed, n'est-ce pas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gheorghius, of course it&#8217;s a stupid thing to do.  I doubt  there&#8217;s much debate about that outside of Washington and the Acme paper Company.</p>
<p>RE has suggest one form of beggar-thy-neighbour policy, US intervention to weaken the $.  For better (or, more to the point) for worse, the government has decided on another beggar-thy-neighbour strategy, one that is more likely to win votes next autumn.</p>
<p>A common standard is most likely to be reached in some sort of multilateral forum.  Unfortunately, the largest surplus holders are either not members (G7) or marginalized (IMF) at the obvious options.  It will be curious to see if the IMF tries to grab the reins next month like they appeared to do last April&#8230;by now all of the bilateral are completed, n&#8217;est-ce pas?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Chiang</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2007/03/30/reverse-globalization/#comment-95700</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Chiang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bush Administration has imposed tariffs ranging from 10.9% to 20.35% on Chinese coated paper imports. The tariffs probably aren't high enough to make a significant impact on imports of Chinese paper. Environmental standards are much lower in China, and the wage gap between similar jobs in China and the US ranges from 7-1 to 50-1, for engineers and manual labor, respectively. Moreover, the same paper can be trans-shipped to other Asian nations, and re-exported to the US market with only with the point of origin paperwork relabeled, as is frequently done with textile exports. I suspect that the relatively low level of tariffs is more a shot across the bow, rather than a full blown trade war declared on China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bush Administration has imposed tariffs ranging from 10.9% to 20.35% on Chinese coated paper imports. The tariffs probably aren&#8217;t high enough to make a significant impact on imports of Chinese paper. Environmental standards are much lower in China, and the wage gap between similar jobs in China and the US ranges from 7-1 to 50-1, for engineers and manual labor, respectively. Moreover, the same paper can be trans-shipped to other Asian nations, and re-exported to the US market with only with the point of origin paperwork relabeled, as is frequently done with textile exports. I suspect that the relatively low level of tariffs is more a shot across the bow, rather than a full blown trade war declared on China.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Chiang</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2007/03/30/reverse-globalization/#comment-95699</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Chiang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 09:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have gone way beyond the point where the Global Economic imbalances can be resolved painlessly. It is now only a question of how bad the post-bubble contraction from the global capital misallocation will become. I suspect we are in for a frightening ride. There is no easy way out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have gone way beyond the point where the Global Economic imbalances can be resolved painlessly. It is now only a question of how bad the post-bubble contraction from the global capital misallocation will become. I suspect we are in for a frightening ride. There is no easy way out.</p>
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		<title>By: Emmanuel</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2007/03/30/reverse-globalization/#comment-95698</link>
		<dc:creator>Emmanuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 08:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guest, everyone: Let's not think this ruling against China over coated paper is obscure as it may pave the way for several other firms to petition the Department of Commerce for tariffs against China. As always, Mr. Trade Legislation and Adjudication has more:

&lt;a href="http://ipezone.blogspot.com/2007/03/us-screw-wto-its-d-i-y-time.html"&gt;Screw WTO, It's Do-It-Yourself Time&lt;/a&gt;.

It might not be so much a case of reverse globalization as a case of putting globalization on hold. With current anti-foreigner / anti-trade sentiment at elevated levels stateside, there's a fat chance that the likes of China and the Mideast oilers will be allowed to buy US firms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guest, everyone: Let&#8217;s not think this ruling against China over coated paper is obscure as it may pave the way for several other firms to petition the Department of Commerce for tariffs against China. As always, Mr. Trade Legislation and Adjudication has more:</p>
<p><a href="http://ipezone.blogspot.com/2007/03/us-screw-wto-its-d-i-y-time.html">Screw WTO, It&#8217;s Do-It-Yourself Time</a>.</p>
<p>It might not be so much a case of reverse globalization as a case of putting globalization on hold. With current anti-foreigner / anti-trade sentiment at elevated levels stateside, there&#8217;s a fat chance that the likes of China and the Mideast oilers will be allowed to buy US firms.</p>
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		<title>By: Gheorghius</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2007/03/30/reverse-globalization/#comment-95697</link>
		<dc:creator>Gheorghius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 08:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gentlemen, please stop for a moment. Consider this sad news:

"The U.S. Commerce Department decided today to levy new duties on imports from China to compensate for Chinese subsidies to exporters, reversing more than two decades of practices."

Globalisation is truly at risk.

Now consider that harsh language accusations against China (or posturing as victims of those who run a trade surplus) allows politicians and pundits to mess up, use the government to favour special interests, and sink what they claim to protect, "national interest" - [Please remember: there is no obligation for anyone to avoid "global imbalances", "accruing ... FX reserves", or generate "some sort of fundamental misalignment": I think on this RebelEconomist has a good point, politically sensible!] - We live in a free world: we should build up common rules; but some refuse to do so: they are the kings of double standard.

Gentlemen, since this is primarily a website for economists, I ask you to join me in condemning the protectionnist approach of Mr Bush (and Mrs Clinton too, on Nafta). Let's put our differences aside, let's spare our harshest words to use them against this misleading populism.

Thankyou!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gentlemen, please stop for a moment. Consider this sad news:</p>
<p>&#8220;The U.S. Commerce Department decided today to levy new duties on imports from China to compensate for Chinese subsidies to exporters, reversing more than two decades of practices.&#8221;</p>
<p>Globalisation is truly at risk.</p>
<p>Now consider that harsh language accusations against China (or posturing as victims of those who run a trade surplus) allows politicians and pundits to mess up, use the government to favour special interests, and sink what they claim to protect, &#8220;national interest&#8221; - [Please remember: there is no obligation for anyone to avoid "global imbalances", "accruing ... FX reserves", or generate "some sort of fundamental misalignment": I think on this RebelEconomist has a good point, politically sensible!] - We live in a free world: we should build up common rules; but some refuse to do so: they are the kings of double standard.</p>
<p>Gentlemen, since this is primarily a website for economists, I ask you to join me in condemning the protectionnist approach of Mr Bush (and Mrs Clinton too, on Nafta). Let&#8217;s put our differences aside, let&#8217;s spare our harshest words to use them against this misleading populism.</p>
<p>Thankyou!</p>
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		<title>By: LC</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2007/03/30/reverse-globalization/#comment-95696</link>
		<dc:creator>LC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 08:48:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Brad's previous comment, but on a separate topic (and refering to Yu Yongding's paper), is anyone convinced now that the Chinese exports are relatively insensitive to exchange rate movement?  RMB has appreciated arround 7% in aggregate since July 05 and Chinese export growth still remains strong.  I am also beginning to wonder if the persistently higher inflation we are now seeing has anything to do with the 7% appreciation.
I am less worried about tariffs on Chinese products, but the overall trend does concern me quite a bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Brad&#8217;s previous comment, but on a separate topic (and refering to Yu Yongding&#8217;s paper), is anyone convinced now that the Chinese exports are relatively insensitive to exchange rate movement?  RMB has appreciated arround 7% in aggregate since July 05 and Chinese export growth still remains strong.  I am also beginning to wonder if the persistently higher inflation we are now seeing has anything to do with the 7% appreciation.<br />
I am less worried about tariffs on Chinese products, but the overall trend does concern me quite a bit.</p>
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