Voldemort’s invisibility cloak

by Brad Setser
July 24, 2007

There is something about SAFE — maybe the fact that its full name, the State Administration of Foreign Exchange, seems to come straight from the Ministry of (Bureaucratic) Magic –  that seems to inspire Harry Potter analogies.  

Macro Man calls China’s reserve managers Voldemort – in part because investment bank research never (or almost never) refers to China by name.    Diplomatic analysts prefer to write about “Asian accounts.” 

Andy Mukherjee got into the act yesterday as well.  He – drawing on Paul Meggyesi’s work for JP Morgan – argues that China’s reserve managers must have an invisibility cloak.   

Something doesn't quite add up in the U.S. Treasury's International Capital System statistics, or TIC data.

Why, for instance, did U.K. investors begin buying U.S. securities just as the People's Bank of China started increasing its pace of reserve accumulation in 2004?

“Is this more than a coincidence? I believe it is,'' Meggyesi says. For the past three years, the reserve buildup in Russia, China and rest of Asia has overshot the recorded official purchases of U.S. securities.

And the growing difference between the two has moved in lockstep with the reported purchases by U.K. investors, “providing very strong evidence that much of this reserve accumulation is being channeled via the U.K., and is in the process being incorrectly recorded in the TIC data as a private rather than official inflow,'' Meggyesi says.

I try not to be too turf-conscious – the diffusion of knowledge is a good thing.   But I confess to feeling a small urge to defend my (intellectual) turf when I read the Mukherjee column.    

After all, one of the main purposes of this blog has been to try to brew a potion that counters SAFE’s invisibility cloak — and now it seems that JP Morgan is starting to do the same thing. 

I have consistently argued that the US TIC data dramatically understates the role of “official actors”, both central banks and oil investment funds, in the financing of the US external deficit (more here).  And I have spent a fair amount of time trying to construct alternative ways of estimating central bank financing of the US – measures that don’t rely entirely on the US data.  Right now those measures suggest that the US is received close to $800b (annualized) in central bank financing in the first half of 2007.

Indeed, I suspect the three most consistent themes of this blog have been:

  • The US trade deficit (which incidentally is far larger than Australia or New Zealand’s trade deficit, as both have large income deficits that contribute to their current account deficits) is creating strong underlying pressure for dollar depreciation.
  • The US income balance will eventually turn negative.
  • The US TIC data/ the BEA’s capital account data understates central bank financing o the US, and specifically understates Chinese and Middle Eastern financing of the US (there is more than one invisibility cloak floating around) 

The dollar is pretty weak.  I am still waiting for the income balance to swing.   The BEA’s recent data revisions didn’t help my case here, though I think the details do suggest that the income balance will soon deteriorate (the BEA revised income payments down because more US debt is short-term – and that is no longer a big help).  But the BEA’s revisions – based on the survey data – do indicate that the unrevised TIC data systematically understates official inflows.

Indeed, the BEA revised official purchase of Treasuries up by $45b for 2005, and official purchases of Agencies up by close to $25b.   The adjustments to the 2006 data were bigger, but they aren’t formally considered revisions.  And the initial estimates for 2006 were done on the basis of good data (from the survey) for only the first half of 2006.   More revisions will come next year.

The 2006 survey data led the Treasury to revise the UK’s holdings of Treasuries down by $145 billion (see here), from $200b to $55b. China’s holdings of Treasuries were revised up by close to $45b at the same time.  Similar revisions were made to the data on Agencies purchases.   Total Chinese holdings of US debt were revised up by $90b in both mid 2005 and mid 2006.  But even the survey didn’t really pierce the invisibility cloak of many actors – Switzerland and Luxembourg’s holdings of Treasuries, for example, were also revised up … 

We will have to wait a long time for the revised data for the second half of 2006 and 2007.   Still, I am quite confident that British investors haven’t increased their holdings of treasuries by $110b since mid-2006.   If past patterns hold, China will turn out to have bought between $30b and $50b of those bonds.  The 2005 revisions also increased Chinese holdings by about $50b, while reducing the UK’s holdings by close to $100b.

The “visible” data shows that China now buys far more Agency bonds than Treasury bonds.  I consequently expect the next survey will lead to a very large – probably a shockingly large – increase in reported Chinese holdings of US mortgage debt. 

China’s invisibility cloak isn’t perfect.   But it does help Voldemort disguise its activities.   Reported Chinese purchases of US assets have been very low recently – only about 20% of the increase in China’s reserves.    That could mean that Voldemort has found a better invisibility cloak.    Or it could mean that Voldemort is diversifying away from the dollar – and thus putting contributing to the strength of the euro and the pound.

Indeed, I would argue that China’s impact on the euro/ dollar is one of the great unsolved mysteries of international finance.    There is little doubt that Chinese intervention has limited the RMB’s appreciation v the dollar.   And it clearly has pushed the RMB down v the euro and the pound.   But the impact of China on the euro/ dollar cross is subject to substantial uncertainty. 

Macro Man argues that in the absence of Chinese demand for euros and pounds, both the euro and the pound would be substantially weaker against the dollar.  China intervenes primarily in the rmb/ dollar – and consequently is a major net seller of dollars for euros.    And with $500b in dollar reserve growth, China has become a big seller of dollars.

Others – including others close to the market – make the opposite argument.   China tends to end up holding more dollars (as it reduces the amount of dollars it sells for euros and pounds) when the dollar is under pressure.   This may reflect China’s desire to hold a constant share of dollars in its portfolio — as keeping the dollar's share in China's portfolio constant would require holding on to more dollars when the dollar is falling than when it is rising.   Or it may reflect China’s desire not to push the RMB too far down against the euro.  

No matter.  If this describes the PBoC's behavior, the net effect is that China reduces its sale of dollars when the dollar is under the pressure, helping to support the dollar.
And the PBoC – along with other central banks – ends up supplying more financing to the US when no one else wants to.  Absent such financing the dollar would be even weaker against a host of currencies. 

Both arguments are plausible.   And until Voldemort gives up his invisibility cloak, we won’t know the answer.

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  • Posted by Dave Chiang

    From Safehaven Financial Website,
    http://www.safehaven.com/article-8025.htm

    Another protectionist measure was introduced by Congress which might make good electioneering politics but has little to do with anything to force China to change. Not only is this another impotent form of China-bashing but while the renminbi has strengthened in the past year, America’s deficits continue to worsen. To resolve the imbalances between China and the United States, America must look to domestic fiscal policy rather than a shift in the renminbi. America has allowed politics to prevent a reduction of the federal deficit and its policy of China-bashing only serves to mask their real problem.

    It has been calculated that a 20 percent appreciation of the renminbi would reduce the US deficit by only $150 billon or so, a rounding error. Instead, if Americans spent less, saved more, used less energy and consumed less, the savings of billions would more than offset an increase in the renminbi. Indeed were the renminbi to increase by 20 percent, it would result in increased import costs and higher export prices. America has benefited from low import prices, and that is the problem. America’s insatiable appetite for cheap imports and cheap energy and its reliance on borrowing from the rest of the world. America needs to borrow $2 billion a day to finance it deficits.

    To be sure, an unsustainable development.

  • Posted by Economista Non gratia

    First

  • Posted by Anonymous

    TIC data is targeted at US inflows – not end buyers.

    (‘flow’ rather than ‘stock’ information)

    Does TIC ‘understate’ official inflows – or does the survey reflect additional and different information – a reallocation (trade) of (existing) holdings from foreign private portfolios to foreign official portfolios?

    (Not an unreasonable expectation, given the growing market share demands of official portfolios).

    Are the ‘revisions’ really revisions, or just different (not necessarily inconsistent) information?

    Is it realistic to expect TIC data to reflect end buyer distribution?

    Inferring the norm is to expect end buyers to deal with New York?

  • Posted by Anonymous

    ‘end buyers’ above meaning foreign buyers dealing with foreign portfolio sellers, more than in the brokered from New York sense

  • Posted by bsetser

    when recorded TIC official inflows are smaller than the increase in the FRBNY’s custodial holdings, i think it is fair to say that the TIC understates official inflows, relative to other high-frequency indicators. the TIC was intended to capture who is buying as well as what they are buying — but you are right, now, the TIC captures what types of securities foreigners are buying and how many they are buying, but not who is doing the buying.

    the revisions are revisions — the data changes, sometimes in a big way. but they are revised to take into account data from a different source (they survey).

    DC — the US has reduced its fiscal deficit (now @ 1.5% of GDP), and the RMB’s move v the $ remains trivial relative to the moves in the euro, pound and loonie (incidentally, the uS deficit is falling v all three). and i would argue a $150b fall in the US trade deficit is actually quite significant.

    remember $ weakness is also RMB weakness, and so long as Chinese exports respond more strongly than US export s to the fall in the $-RMB, the main impact of $ weakness is a bigger Chinese surplus and more Chinese financing of the US deficit — with China financing close to 1/2 the US deficit ($500b in reserves/ an assumed $375b going into $ assets), tis hard not to conclude that China is voluntarily using its surplus with europe to finance US overconsumption …

    Agree tho that the us could and should do more on the energy front, and if an energy tax reduced the fiscal deficit even further, all the better. but the experience of the last few years strongly suggests that the US cannot adjust alone, some of the deficit has been induced by high gov. savings abroad.

  • Posted by cam

    The U.S. budget deficit peaked in 2004 at $412.7 bil and declined to $248.2 bil in 2006. That $164.5 bil reduction had no effect on the trade deficit.

    Brad-
    An interesting thing that you did not comment on in the Murkherjee column was the theory that China’s exports are being inflated by overbilling to mask capital inflows.

  • Posted by Twofish

    Personally, I think a lot of it has to do with underreporting of service income in China. The gap also corresponds to a massive growth in service-sector employment.

    I should point out that the main lesson from this is to be very, very careful when you use statistics for the basis of macroeconomic planning. The consumption, investment, and income patterns could be very different from what gets recorded in the statistics, which opens up the danger that policies based on fixing problems that come from these statistics could do more damage than good.

    Personally, I think that most of the UK money is channeled toward the Middle East. The PBC really doesn’t have much of an incentive to cover its tracks, but many people in the Middle East do.

  • Posted by Guest

    “…Aside from the undercounting issue in the TIC data, the 3 data sources reviewed here cover only a subset of potential investments in the global markets…” http://australia.pimco.com/LeftNav/Global+Markets/Capital+Perspectives/2007/Cap+Persp+Jan+07.htm

  • Posted by Twofish

    [q]Macro Man calls China’s reserve managers Voldemort – in part because investment bank research never (or almost never) refers to China by name. Diplomatic analysts prefer to write about “Asian accounts.”[/q]

    This isn’t true. The reason the report wrote “Asian accounts” is that there isn’t any particular reason to single out China here. The purchases could come from Russia, India, and the Middle East. Personally I don’t think any significant amount of the mysterious purchases are coming from China. Rather they are coming from the Middle East.

    One thing that would be interesting is to look at the correlation between treasury purchases and oil prices.

  • Posted by bsetser

    I am pretty sure Asian accounts is different code than Middle eastern buying — it includes Taiwan, korea, HKMA, Singapore (MAS/ GIC), some japanese real money, theMoF/ Boj (shifting into agencies) but not most oil money, and certainly not Russia.

    and there is no doubt that China buys through london — look at the revisions to treasury holdings the last two years (UK down, China up) and the survey v TIC (China $90b more in survey v TIC). I don’t think it does so necessarily to cover its tracks tho — time zone wise, London is awake and open when beijing is awake and open, and NY isn’t …

    the net result tho is an invisibility cloak until the survey data comes out — and it comes out with a long lag.

  • Posted by Dave Chiang

    I concur that the significant amount of the mysterious purchases is not coming from China. The funds are transferred through London and Carribean intermediaries, which are tax havens for wealthy Europeans, Latin American, and Middle East residents. Capital controls on Chinese citizens remain highly regulated. Finally, the Chinese PBoC releases official statistics on overall foreign reserves.

    Prior to the 1997 Hong Kong takeover by China, the British owned Matheson Jardine trading corporation transferred its headquarters and corporate registration to the Carribean in order to escape Chinese monetary control of Hong Kong.

  • Posted by JohnH

    Chinese stock purchases do help explain how the Dow, the US current account deficit, and Chinese surplus could all be at a record. Those with the account surplus (China and oil producers) have been buying US companies, laundering the transactions through different agents in London. Now who will tell Exxon, Chevron, Boeing, Lockheed, and the Bush administration that they are now owned by foreigners? And what will trigger the transfer of control?

  • Posted by black swan

    Before actually believing that the DOW is “at record”, consider Mark Faber’s numbers:
    “If you adjust the Dow Jones and the S&P for the depreciation of the dollar then in euro terms the Dow is still down 35% from its 2000 peak, the S&P by a similar amount, and the Nasdaq in euro terms is still down 63% from peak. In gold terms all the U.S. indices are down more than 50% from their peaks.”

  • Posted by Guest

    Might ratings and accounting issues be at least partly to blame for reporting lags?

    won’t post this again, but surprised it isn’t getting more attention: “Treasuries are getting an unexpected boost from pension funds controlling more than $14 trillion… shifting away from stocks to prepare for accounting changes requiring them to more fully disclose the value of their holdings…” http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aCoF9B9h8rxs&refer=home

    would also be interested in your response to ‘cam’ Brad

  • Posted by Twofish

    JohnH: I doubt that China is a major purchaser of US stock (yet). NYSE market capitalization is $15 trillion so fears of a takeover by China is a bit overblown. The amounts that China has invested in US stock markets are pocket change as of now.

    Also there are all sorts of securities regulations that make it essentially impossible to take over a large publicly listed US company without everyone knowing who you are (private companies are different).

  • Posted by bsetser

    i tend to think china’s trade surplus is mostly real,not disguised capital inflows — but i don’t really know. stephen green revised his estimate of the scale of the disguised inflows down last year. there are a lot of data series in china that don’t add up, but i tend to think the trade data is better than most. certainly i think China’s overall surplus is rising — not constant. that said, there clearly are some disguised inflows there — the issue is one of scale.

  • Posted by Anonymous

    ” the revisions are revisions ”

    I guess I don’t understand the data collection process at all.

    Could you perhaps construct a simple (conceptual) example of a single transaction, where the monthly TIC uses one data point to record an official buyer incorrectly as a private buyer, and where the subsequent survey uses a different data point to record the same transaction correctly as an official buyer.

    Thanks.

  • Posted by Guest

    may be interesting to see the DJ/S&P expressed in yen terms.

    as for gold, some might say it is undervalued. “…In the previous interest rate cycle of 1970 to 1983, prices went from $35 to about $675 (it touched $850 for one minute) – an increase of nearly 20 times. This time around, we started from $260, so will we exceed $5,000?…” http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2006/11/09/stories/2006110900500800.htm while others might say it is loosing its relative value in the monetary system.

    currency value translations perhaps being another source of TIC data problems?

  • Posted by Guest

    re: “the US has reduced its fiscal deficit”

    on a cash basis, on accrual not so much (take a look at the medicare charts)…
    http://www.gao.gov/financial/fy2006financialreport.html

    cf. http://research.stlouisfed.org/publications/review/06/07/Kotlikoff.pdf

  • Posted by Macro Man

    The term “Voldemort” comes not from written research, but from speaking with brokers who are not allowed to tell their private sector clients what their public sector customers are up to. So many banks therefore come up with eurphemisms to describe this activity without officially attributing it. “Voldemort” is emblematic of the types of names that are used. (Incidentally, the Middle East is almost universally referred to as “the desert” in this context.)

    Black swan, might I suggest that you perform the same analysis and value US equities in yen terms. I suspect that you might arrive at a different conclusion. For a really fun exercise, value the S&P 500 in Porsche 911 turbos, then try the same exercise with the DAX. My guess is that the SPX has gained more in 911 terms this decade than the DAX has, judging by the USD sticker price on 911 turbos on Yahoo’s frontpage and comparing it with the going rate that my more automotively-inclined colleagues pay here in Europe.

  • Posted by bsetser

    those banks who send out data on flows to their private sector customers tend to use similar euphemisms …

    it is sort of like the TIC data, which groups Saudi Arabia with other Gulf countries under “Asian oil exporters” rather than reporting their treasury holdings directly for historical reasons. that is a case of a public sector institution doing one of its public sector financiers a favor and masking a bit of data — since it would have been very clear in the 70s/ early 80s that all the Saudi flows were public sector flows (the usual way the TIC masks central banks is by combining central bank flows with private flows at the country level).

  • Posted by bsetser

    cash is what matters (re the fiscal deficit) for balance of payments purposes, which is what we are discussing here. and for all the complaints about the accrual deficit in entitlements, the cash deficit would be a lot bigger without the big cash surplus in social security.

    the trust fund holds more us bonds that the PBoC — and that is hard.

  • Posted by bsetser

    Re: TIC v survey

    Goldman NY sells an Agency to Barclays England for its inventory — that is recorded in the TIC as the sale of a US security (an Agency bond) to a private counterparty in the UK. Barclays England sells the Agency to the PBoC’s london office a few days later. that is a transaction between two English residents (legally) and it never appears in the TIC data (the example also would work is a European pension fund initially buys the bond and then sells it to the PBoC).

    Suppose the PBoC then shifts custodianship of the security from say a UK london to the NY fed to take advantage of one of the NY fed’s more popular services. That shift in custodianship would not register in the TIC data, which only records sales (this is explained on the TIC web page). But it would show up in the Fed’s data on custodial holdings.

    And when the survey is done, the NY fed would obviously report to the Treasury all the securities it holds as a custodian for foreign counterparties, as do all other US custodians (it is a legal requirement). the survey data is quite detailed — the name of the security is provided to the treasury along with the size of the position.

    the BEA now uses this detailed data to estimate income payments for the current account … see the BEA paper I linked to … and once the BEA gets the survey data, it revises its historical data estimating the size of official inflows to make the stock and flow data match.

    at least that is how i understand the data.

  • Posted by Guest

    looks like with blackstone advising CDB on barclays/ABN, they’re positioning themselves to manage china’s excess reserves… with CDB/Temasek owning 11% of barclays/ABN they’d gain entrée into an org that already has $1.8+ trillion AUM (SSGA already manages some of china’s SS money, btw) — http://financial.seekingalpha.com/article/41370 — and presumably knows how to move it around profitably… i’d take andy xie’s advice tho:

    “What China needs is VC for traditional industries. Three forces that drive China’s economy are industrialization, urbanization, and globalization. On the supply side, it is about creating businesses that meet the daily needs of households and businesses. It is like the West one hundred years ago. Because traditional industries have been stable businesses in the west, they are targets for LBO’s. In China, they are new and growth businesses. There are merely 1,500 companies listed in Shanghai and Shenzhen and many of them should be de-listed due to bad quality. In contrast, the US market has about 10,000 companies listed. China has too few good companies and badly needs PE to fund and nurture such businesses.” http://www.caijing.com.cn/newcn/English/Economist/2007-07-24/25264.shtml

    and the FT warns:

    China should beware of a backlash
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/b7eb196a-3a16-11dc-9d73-0000779fd2ac.html
    “If there are many more deals like the $3bn investment in US private equity group Blackstone by China’s new state investment agency, they will become a political issue of the highest order. China’s trade surplus and exchange rate policy are bad enough, but if it is seen to be buying up the world economy with the proceeds, it can only end in hearings before Congress, public demands for protectionism, and ever louder demands for a higher renminbi. That is the last thing that China needs.”

    Sovereign guidance
    http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2f02a844-3880-11dc-bca9-0000779fd2ac.html
    “All of these fears could be mitigated by greater transparency: at present, few funds give details of their portfolio or investment strategy. They may share this opacity with other actors, such as hedge funds or private equity houses, but their size and potentially political nature justifies greater scrutiny. If the EU is bent on creating a vetting system for expected inflows, it needs to be carefully designed: above all to avoid nationality-based prejudice, but give every incentive for greater disclosure.”

  • Posted by Twofish

    I think the FT commentary is pretty silly. There is a potential for public backlash against Chinese investments in the United States. (Blackstone is a private equity firm, BTW.)

    So rather than invest openly and transparently in vehicles that can be easily seen and carefully tracked, China should instead invest in secret, counting of course that no one is ever going to be able to trace the money, and of course, investing in secret untraceable means is going to do wonders for preventing the conspiracy theorists and anti-China lobby from gathering support and to much to reduce fear of a rising China.

    There *will* be Congressional hearings on Chinese investment in the US. There *will* be calls for protectionism. Being open and transparent about what it is doing is going to make it much easier for Beijing to deal with them.

  • Posted by Guest

    why is it silly if that is what the FT is advocating? they clearly state: “All of these fears could be mitigated by greater transparency.”

  • Posted by Guest

    re: “cash is what matters”

    “…that sure sounds to me like yet another rejection of Hamiltonian principles in favor of the new faith-based policy, which assumes that global economies will always be strong and, therefore, foreign capital will indefinitely bankroll America’s war machine at a low cost. The danger is, it also assumes that American taxpayers will be able to indefinitely pay the interest costs of our burgeoning foreign debt … on top of exploding unfunded domestic entitlements in Social Security and Medicare…” http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/america-becoming-global-credit-risk/story.aspx?guid=%7BAE018C0F%2DA657%2D47E0%2DA53F%2DE67A522A775A%7D

  • Posted by Anonymous

    Re: TIC versus survey

    Thanks very much for the example.

    Sorry to push on this, but I believe you’re making my point for me.

    ” The example also would work is a European pension fund initially buys the bond and then sells it to the PBoC. ”

    This is precisely my point. The monthly data is partial. It completely misses intra-foreign transactions such as this example. The result is an incomplete picture of the global distribution of ownership at any point in time. There are all sorts of permutations and combinations of how initial reported US-foreign transactions can morph their way through different ownership still within the foreign sector, and escape monthly data collection.

    Moreover, the time lag for the survey to attempt to uncover more accurate end-ownership distribution is 1 year.

    There are many examples such as this one where the foreign pension fund may have held treasuries for a relatively long time since they were initially recorded as a US-foreign purchase in the TIC data.

    The monthly data represents the initial flow of Treasuries or other securities from onshore ownership to foreign ownership. Any further ownership changes still within the foreign sphere fly below TIC radar until they are picked up by the survey, assuming they are picked up.

    I was aware of the custodian bias effect, but not so much of its specific use in the ‘survey’. (I haven’t seen any description of the data collection process for the ‘survey’; I’ve seen a bit on how the monthly data is done.) The US custodian data seems to be a unique data update source for the survey that distinguishes it from the monthly data. But what about activity reflected in non-US custodians? Or activity where there is no custodian (if that exists)? Presumably, these ownership changes continue to fly below the radar of either the TIC monthly or the survey data, and continue to be recorded incorrectly in terms of the ultimate holder of the asset.

    So the TIC and the survey would both account for all US securities that have ever moved from onshore to offshore portfolios, but I see considerable wiggle room in terms of the accurate identification of current actual foreign ownership distribution at any point in time, even with the survey. These discrepancies might be corrected over time, but with arbitrary timing and completeness, as the corresponding securities periodically resurface in the radar either in the form of repatriated ownership or domestic custodianship.

    I guess my point is, given the permutations and combinations of ownership change that are possible within the foreign sector, and given the potential for leakage in the data (monthly or survey), I’m not sure why you would expect anything other than the unexpected, in terms of linking up this type of data source with central bank reserve accumulation on a monthly basis.

    Given this, I would think the potential is enormous for monthly noise and erroneous volatility from the TIC data, to the point of limiting its usefulness or reliability in the ongoing accurate identification (on a monthly basis) of portfolio ownership distribution globally. It seems like the TIC/survey is a best efforts system of identifying international investment positions, but a lot more accurate at the US end than the foreign end, with no guarantees on the latter. It is a system of incomplete flow capture (omits intra-foreign) and it sounds like incomplete stock capture (foreign custodians; or the absence of any custodian).

  • Posted by bsetser

    anonymous — I basically agree. that is why i also like to look at data from “creditors” — i.e. the world’s central banks. I certainly agree that the monthly TIC data has limited utility for determining who is actually financing the US. And Dan Gros of CEPS has noted — i think correctly — that while the survey does a better job picking up ultimate ownership of us assets abroad, it also seems to miss some assets held abroad (foreign holdings tend to get revised down) b/c not all us securities held abroad are held by custodians (i gather than foreign custodians generally transfer securities that they hold to a us domiciled custodian, so most do appear, but not all).

    but hey, you have to work with what you have — and the us data for all its faults is still far better than anything that comes out of the UK or the eurozone.

  • Posted by Guest

    Blackstone’s Leung Fuels China Push
    Antony Leung has helped push Blackstone onto center stage in the world’s fourth-biggest economy with two major Chinese deals.

    Governments Get Bolder With Equity Stakes
    Foreign governments are investing aggressively in U.S. and European companies. The deals could prompt political backlash and may bid up global prices for speculative assets.

  • Posted by Asian Man

    Dave Chiang – Let’s bid our good farewells to Harry Potter (he’s all grown up) due to his last book epic. Thus, incidentally, that also means the British-made ["Voldemort"] is no more ["poof"] — sorry Macro Man, et al.

    It’s time to wake up and no more imaginary “invisible Boogey Man” playing and all back to reality people meaning “Let’s Compete Globally” and see who has more “wealth” per world population capita.

    Time is ticking ….

  • Posted by LC

    Maybe I am just being cynical, but does anyone really expect the upcoming congressional hearings, held by Ivy League educated elites, questioning portifolios managed by their fellow Ivy League roommates, in service of yet more Ivy League grads running a large economy to produce any results that will be good for world wide economy? Didn’t these guys help produce the deficit and the financing the first time?
    It will be a good show full of nationalistic and “patrotic” rhetoric, I bet.

  • Posted by Anonymous ibid.

    Brad, just a periodic note to thank you for the quality of your work and to say that it attracts many good commenters who provide terrific links.

  • Posted by Yendemort

    Its “china” here mostly

    what about Japan ? Yen at 120 looks like a precarious position for global markets ? Carry trade problems again ?

  • Posted by A. P. Simkin

    Two things. One. Why has no one mentioned the London-based hedge funds and prop traders as another source of the bulging U.K. tic data? Two. America has been in net deficit on earnings for a few years. Remember. The data include unrepatriated earnings that are reinvested abroad as current-account income. My impression is that this is just an accounting device. The funds may not be held in dollars and don’t enter the USA, as the exact figure is shown as part of the foreign direct investment outflow.

  • Posted by Anonymous

    The US has been in surplus on net CA income.

    FDI reinvested earnings = current account income = capital outflow.

    Standard accounting for retained earnings (inflow = outflow).

  • Posted by A. P. Simkin

    Anon – It may be standard accounting practice, but the retained earnings numbers have little – or no – impact on the dollar’s exchange rate. The reported foreign earnings on investments in the USA have seemed suspect to me for a long time. How much of what they earn is either transfer priced outside the USA, or is offset by domestic borrowing resulting in a smaller net figure?

  • Posted by Anonymous

    A.P.S.

    Completely agree on all counts. And FDI only depicts equity capitalization. Foreign firms can easily convert FDI income to debt interest by capitalizing with fat debt and thin equity. This moves related income completely out of the FDI category in the international accounts, embedding it in the interest category instead. Thats as much if not more of a factor as inflated internal transfer pricing of goods and services, in understanding the apparent FDI reinvested earnings conundrum.

  • Posted by Macro Man

    The very significant currency market flows resulting from the so-called HIA in 2005 suggest that the size of retained earnings is large and that a substantial portion of it is retained in local currency.

  • Posted by Anonymous

    To clarify, I’m referring to FDI directionally into the U.S., and the correspondingly low levels of reported reinvested earnings.

  • Posted by bsetser

    interest on intra-company debt appears in the US BoP as income on FDI. and i don’t think that the implied interest rate on foreign holdings of us debt is much more impressive than the implied earnings on FDI. I don’t doubt the basic idea, but i am not sure it totally explains the puzzle.

    Agree with macroman’s point on the impact of the HIA. Note that the US drug cos once again have huge holdings offshore that they don’t want to repatriate b/c of the tax. they still book all their profits in ireland. And i presume european drug cos also book their profits in ireland or switzerland or the like.

  • Posted by A. P. Simkin

    Dr. S

    I thought, perhaps incorrectly, that the intracompany interest payments/receipts in the BOP data are those that cross the border. So, a domestic interest payment/receipt would not show up in the BOP. Was I wrong?