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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2007/10/25/central-banks-are-buying-not-selling-dollars/#comment-101345</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 21:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Turkish central bank for a very long period used to print Turkish Lira to cover expenses. The consequences are deprecation for the Turkish Lira, higher inflation and higher interest rates for the long term bonds.  Higher interest rates may also mean recession not sustainable growth. I have never though US FED would do the same thing sometime, and would drop Dollars from the helicopter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turkish central bank for a very long period used to print Turkish Lira to cover expenses. The consequences are deprecation for the Turkish Lira, higher inflation and higher interest rates for the long term bonds.  Higher interest rates may also mean recession not sustainable growth. I have never though US FED would do the same thing sometime, and would drop Dollars from the helicopter.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2007/10/25/central-banks-are-buying-not-selling-dollars/#comment-101344</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 02:24:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr Chiang

It is not that you are politically incorrect but rather entirely impolite and rather boring.  Droning, on and on, and not adressing those issues which fit squarely withing your contrived agenda makes you a small annoyance.  At least you are somewhat more respectful than on the China Daily board, &quot;Flotsam&quot; &quot;Jetsam&quot;.

An unemployed software programmer from the UK, psychologically damaged from some obviously rude natives, with far too much time on their hands. Rather would we talk of the blocks upon blocks of high-end housing in coastal China sitting empty, asset price imbalances in country, and the mass wasteful expropriation of Chinese peasant savings to encourage stability in a mostly unstable Chinese future.  Or should we talk about the growth of inter-Asian trade, mostly a factor of MNC supply chains for export to the West.

As Brad said previously nationalism will/can/could work both ways.

Blame a government and institutions that I myself am not particularly fond of, but do try to moderate the ugly banter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Chiang</p>
<p>It is not that you are politically incorrect but rather entirely impolite and rather boring.  Droning, on and on, and not adressing those issues which fit squarely withing your contrived agenda makes you a small annoyance.  At least you are somewhat more respectful than on the China Daily board, &#8220;Flotsam&#8221; &#8220;Jetsam&#8221;.</p>
<p>An unemployed software programmer from the UK, psychologically damaged from some obviously rude natives, with far too much time on their hands. Rather would we talk of the blocks upon blocks of high-end housing in coastal China sitting empty, asset price imbalances in country, and the mass wasteful expropriation of Chinese peasant savings to encourage stability in a mostly unstable Chinese future.  Or should we talk about the growth of inter-Asian trade, mostly a factor of MNC supply chains for export to the West.</p>
<p>As Brad said previously nationalism will/can/could work both ways.</p>
<p>Blame a government and institutions that I myself am not particularly fond of, but do try to moderate the ugly banter.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Chiang</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2007/10/25/central-banks-are-buying-not-selling-dollars/#comment-101343</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Chiang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 08:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL,

Treasury Secretary Paulson trashes the Chinese, praises India
http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/26/magazines/fortune/easton_treasury.fortune/index.htm

The biased US media echoing the Washington Consensus loves to praise democratic India and bash socialist Chinese. Anyone who has visited both countries knows otherwise. Infrastructure even in remote regions of China is today light years ahead of India. Whereas starvation is no longer a serious problem in China, over 70% of Indian children face malnutrition and illiteracy. By contrast, even in remote Tibet province, over 95% of children are literate with highways and telecommunications reaching every village today. While India does excel in technology services, it only employs a very small sliver of highly educated workers. Indian society is highly fractured with its caste and religious divisions integrated into its cultural values. LOL to Hank Paulson and the Bush Administration if they think India will be economically powerful enough to challenge China&#039;s Industrial, Technological, and Military firepower. Please inform Hank Paulson not to even bother travel to China in December.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL,</p>
<p>Treasury Secretary Paulson trashes the Chinese, praises India<br />
<a href="http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/26/magazines/fortune/easton_treasury.fortune/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://money.cnn.com/2007/10/26/magazines/fortune/easton_treasury.fortune/index.htm</a></p>
<p>The biased US media echoing the Washington Consensus loves to praise democratic India and bash socialist Chinese. Anyone who has visited both countries knows otherwise. Infrastructure even in remote regions of China is today light years ahead of India. Whereas starvation is no longer a serious problem in China, over 70% of Indian children face malnutrition and illiteracy. By contrast, even in remote Tibet province, over 95% of children are literate with highways and telecommunications reaching every village today. While India does excel in technology services, it only employs a very small sliver of highly educated workers. Indian society is highly fractured with its caste and religious divisions integrated into its cultural values. LOL to Hank Paulson and the Bush Administration if they think India will be economically powerful enough to challenge China&#8217;s Industrial, Technological, and Military firepower. Please inform Hank Paulson not to even bother travel to China in December.</p>
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		<title>By: Nicolas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicolas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 07:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Stephen Schwarzman&#039;s 3 million dollar birthday party. THE HELL WITH WALL STREET. They are ruining the world with their greed and incompetence . A financial market system that doesn&#039;t care about the currency. HOW PAINFULLY PATHETIC. That&#039;s because they all have their houses abroad just in case the streets start burning.
Never in the history of the world such a situation. Jim Rogers is right sell and get out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Stephen Schwarzman&#8217;s 3 million dollar birthday party. THE HELL WITH WALL STREET. They are ruining the world with their greed and incompetence . A financial market system that doesn&#8217;t care about the currency. HOW PAINFULLY PATHETIC. That&#8217;s because they all have their houses abroad just in case the streets start burning.<br />
Never in the history of the world such a situation. Jim Rogers is right sell and get out.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Chiang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Chiang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 06:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Hank Paulson is travelling to China in December to lecture the Chinese on the importance of &quot;unregulated financial markets&quot;, and opening the Chinese financial markets to the same US crony capitalism. Under the Super SIV bailout scam, using the US Department of Treasury authority to prevent price discovery and marking to market of subprime mortgage securities by major US Money Center Banks is dishonest, immoral, and criminal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Hank Paulson is travelling to China in December to lecture the Chinese on the importance of &#8220;unregulated financial markets&#8221;, and opening the Chinese financial markets to the same US crony capitalism. Under the Super SIV bailout scam, using the US Department of Treasury authority to prevent price discovery and marking to market of subprime mortgage securities by major US Money Center Banks is dishonest, immoral, and criminal.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 06:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How other view the US shenanigans, a view from across the pond:

...&quot;As the Bank of England warned, the Super-Siv should not be used to prop up fictitious valuations.

&quot;It stinks, as does the Treasury&#039;s sponsorship of the scheme. It seems designed to prevent price discovery.&quot;&quot; says Bernard Connolly, global strategist for Banque AIG.

Connolly says it resembles the slippery practices at the start of the Bear Stearns debacle, when creditors quickly abandoned attempts to force CDO sales by the Bear Stearns hedge funds as soon as they realized that prices were collapsing - exposing the awful truth that hundreds of billions were falsely valued on books.

Nauseating though Paulson&#039;s MLEV -- `Master Liquidity Enhancement Conduit&#039; - may be, it probably has to be done.

Connolly says the Fed-led pack of central banks have made such a mess of capitalism by blowing credit bubbles (with low rates in the late 1990s and 2003-2006) that they now have no alternative other than to relaunch the &quot;Ponzi Scheme&quot;, or risk depression.

This will have political consequences, of course. &quot;The looming threat on the horizon, or just over it, is that the socialization of risk will be accompanied, in many countries, by the socialization of wealth,&quot; he said.

Indeed. The investors now baying for bail-outs had better be careful what they wish for. Democracy will have its way of making them pay. One recalls the 98pc tax rate on dividends in Britain in the late 1970s. Haircut now, or haircut later.

In any case, the Paulson Super-Siv has failed to calm the horses. &quot;This rescue has back-fired. The central banks don&#039;t want anything to do with it. There is a fear that the big four US banks are trying to hide their debts,&quot; said Hans Redeker, currency chief at BNP Paribas.

The DOW is down 500 points or so since peaking in early October, and it looks wobbly.

Even so, equities have not begun to reflect the reality that the 2006-2007 credit bubble has popped and cannot be easily reflated at a time of stubborn, lingering inflation. Spare me the mantra that the &quot;fundamentals&quot; are sound. Credit is the ultimate fundamental.

Woe betide Wall Street if the Fed fails to slash rates dramatically over the Winter, starting on October 31.

Woe betide the dollar if it does.&quot;




Posted by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard on 25 Oct 2007 at 12:36</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How other view the US shenanigans, a view from across the pond:</p>
<p>&#8230;&#8221;As the Bank of England warned, the Super-Siv should not be used to prop up fictitious valuations.</p>
<p>&#8220;It stinks, as does the Treasury&#8217;s sponsorship of the scheme. It seems designed to prevent price discovery.&#8221;" says Bernard Connolly, global strategist for Banque AIG.</p>
<p>Connolly says it resembles the slippery practices at the start of the Bear Stearns debacle, when creditors quickly abandoned attempts to force CDO sales by the Bear Stearns hedge funds as soon as they realized that prices were collapsing &#8211; exposing the awful truth that hundreds of billions were falsely valued on books.</p>
<p>Nauseating though Paulson&#8217;s MLEV &#8212; `Master Liquidity Enhancement Conduit&#8217; &#8211; may be, it probably has to be done.</p>
<p>Connolly says the Fed-led pack of central banks have made such a mess of capitalism by blowing credit bubbles (with low rates in the late 1990s and 2003-2006) that they now have no alternative other than to relaunch the &#8220;Ponzi Scheme&#8221;, or risk depression.</p>
<p>This will have political consequences, of course. &#8220;The looming threat on the horizon, or just over it, is that the socialization of risk will be accompanied, in many countries, by the socialization of wealth,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>Indeed. The investors now baying for bail-outs had better be careful what they wish for. Democracy will have its way of making them pay. One recalls the 98pc tax rate on dividends in Britain in the late 1970s. Haircut now, or haircut later.</p>
<p>In any case, the Paulson Super-Siv has failed to calm the horses. &#8220;This rescue has back-fired. The central banks don&#8217;t want anything to do with it. There is a fear that the big four US banks are trying to hide their debts,&#8221; said Hans Redeker, currency chief at BNP Paribas.</p>
<p>The DOW is down 500 points or so since peaking in early October, and it looks wobbly.</p>
<p>Even so, equities have not begun to reflect the reality that the 2006-2007 credit bubble has popped and cannot be easily reflated at a time of stubborn, lingering inflation. Spare me the mantra that the &#8220;fundamentals&#8221; are sound. Credit is the ultimate fundamental.</p>
<p>Woe betide Wall Street if the Fed fails to slash rates dramatically over the Winter, starting on October 31.</p>
<p>Woe betide the dollar if it does.&#8221;</p>
<p>Posted by Ambrose Evans-Pritchard on 25 Oct 2007 at 12:36</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Chiang</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Chiang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 04:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Foreign Investors holding US Dollars,

In protest of Helicopter Bernanke&#039;s deliberate policy of devaluating and inflating away the monetary value of the US Dollar, I strongly advise any foreign investor to immediately dump their holding of US Dollars. Any already incurred losses from US Dollar devaluation will significantly worsen under the grossly irresponsible monetary policies of the Federal Reserve and US Treasury Department. There is absolutely no prospect for any long term rebound in the US Dollar with massive US deficits stretching to the horizon. Plus if you are infuriated with the Bush Administration&#039;s Neo-colonial military policy of conquest and plunder of Iraqi oil  - the world&#039;s 2nd largest conventional oil reserves, dumping the US Dollar will only make it more financially difficult to finance what can best be described as a war crime against humanity with over 1 million dead Iraqi citizens and over 2 million refugees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Foreign Investors holding US Dollars,</p>
<p>In protest of Helicopter Bernanke&#8217;s deliberate policy of devaluating and inflating away the monetary value of the US Dollar, I strongly advise any foreign investor to immediately dump their holding of US Dollars. Any already incurred losses from US Dollar devaluation will significantly worsen under the grossly irresponsible monetary policies of the Federal Reserve and US Treasury Department. There is absolutely no prospect for any long term rebound in the US Dollar with massive US deficits stretching to the horizon. Plus if you are infuriated with the Bush Administration&#8217;s Neo-colonial military policy of conquest and plunder of Iraqi oil  &#8211; the world&#8217;s 2nd largest conventional oil reserves, dumping the US Dollar will only make it more financially difficult to finance what can best be described as a war crime against humanity with over 1 million dead Iraqi citizens and over 2 million refugees.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 04:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;How much longer can the Federal Reserve and their mainstream media cronies think they can Bamboozle the public and foreign investors? Is Ben Bernanke going to continue to sit on his fat ass and do absolutely nothing to contain potential hyperinflation? &quot;

Absolutely, dovish FED will continue no inflation spin. No only, he will not do anything to contain potential hyperinflation. he will cut rate to encourage growth of everything except dollar. There is reason why FED is called super dove, that is they embrace inflation not fighting inflation. It is time to give up on hope that FED will change around fighting inflation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How much longer can the Federal Reserve and their mainstream media cronies think they can Bamboozle the public and foreign investors? Is Ben Bernanke going to continue to sit on his fat ass and do absolutely nothing to contain potential hyperinflation? &#8221;</p>
<p>Absolutely, dovish FED will continue no inflation spin. No only, he will not do anything to contain potential hyperinflation. he will cut rate to encourage growth of everything except dollar. There is reason why FED is called super dove, that is they embrace inflation not fighting inflation. It is time to give up on hope that FED will change around fighting inflation.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 04:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There you have it. Some officials spoke in CNBC that there is no inflation (depend where you look at, i am sure JumboJet Ben is looking at the same spot). They are fine with current dollar decline (i am sure JumboJet Ben and Treasury Paul will be fine with current and FUTURE dollar decline or acceleration of dollar decline). There you have it, rate cut to the bone 0%, start with 100bp rate cut in comming FOMC meeting. Don&#039;t bet against dovish FED and dovish spin from all government officials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There you have it. Some officials spoke in CNBC that there is no inflation (depend where you look at, i am sure JumboJet Ben is looking at the same spot). They are fine with current dollar decline (i am sure JumboJet Ben and Treasury Paul will be fine with current and FUTURE dollar decline or acceleration of dollar decline). There you have it, rate cut to the bone 0%, start with 100bp rate cut in comming FOMC meeting. Don&#8217;t bet against dovish FED and dovish spin from all government officials.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 04:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad-

I think now is the time we&#039;ll start seeing more SWF buying of US firms and hence the US and the dollar will continue to receive investment. It appears we are following the UK where everything is for sale.  This is a logical outcome to massive pools of dollars that are depreciating.  Possibly, also, for less than credit worthy borrowers who will not be able to refinance with anyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad-</p>
<p>I think now is the time we&#8217;ll start seeing more SWF buying of US firms and hence the US and the dollar will continue to receive investment. It appears we are following the UK where everything is for sale.  This is a logical outcome to massive pools of dollars that are depreciating.  Possibly, also, for less than credit worthy borrowers who will not be able to refinance with anyone else.</p>
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