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	<title>Comments on: Blog envy: on Europe, the G-7 and the Fed</title>
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		<title>By: Greg Byshenk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Byshenk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One comment on the European housing &#34;bubble&#34;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;From what I understand, one could argue that there was such a &#34;bubble&#34; in the case of the UK, Spain, and Ireland. But adding the Netherlands to the list seems odd.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Yes, housing prices are rather high (leaving aside the large rental market), but the current situation hardly seems to merit the epithet &#34;bubble&#34;. The sale price of housing did increase significantly in the 1990s. From 1996 through 2001, the sales price of housing increased by over 10% each year, reaching 18% in 2000. But since 2003, such increases have moderated significantly, remaining in the region of 4% per year since then.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I am not sufficiently expert to say whether a 4% per year increase is still &#34;too much&#34;, but it doesn't seem to be consistent with the double-digit increases that one sees in &#34;bubble&#34; situations elsewhere (or that one saw in the Netherlands in the 1990s).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Most recent figures are avalable from the Centraal Bureau voor de Statistiek, at:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;http://statline.cbs.nl/StatWeb/publication/?VW=T&#38;DM=SLNL&#38;PA=71533ned&#38;HD=080422-2242</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One comment on the European housing &quot;bubble&quot;.</p>
<p>From what I understand, one could argue that there was such a &quot;bubble&quot; in the case of the UK, Spain, and Ireland. But adding the Netherlands to the list seems odd.</p>
<p>Yes, housing prices are rather high (leaving aside the large rental market), but the current situation hardly seems to merit the epithet &quot;bubble&quot;. The sale price of housing did increase significantly in the 1990s. From 1996 through 2001, the sales price of housing increased by over 10% each year, reaching 18% in 2000. But since 2003, such increases have moderated significantly, remaining in the region of 4% per year since then.</p>
<p>I am not sufficiently expert to say whether a 4% per year increase is still &quot;too much&quot;, but it doesn&#8217;t seem to be consistent with the double-digit increases that one sees in &quot;bubble&quot; situations elsewhere (or that one saw in the Netherlands in the 1990s).</p>
<p>Most recent figures are avalable from the Centraal Bureau voor de Statistiek, at:</p>
<p><a href="http://statline.cbs.nl/StatWeb/publication/?VW=T&amp;DM=SLNL&amp;PA=71533ned&amp;HD=080422-2242" rel="nofollow">http://statline.cbs.nl/StatWeb/publication/?VW=T&amp;DM=SLNL&amp;PA=71533ned&amp;HD=080422-2242</a></p>
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		<title>By: MtM</title>
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		<dc:creator>MtM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twofish sez: &#34;...China has the opposite situation, in that the legislature is not democratic, but it does tend to quietly ask some pretty tough questions since the National People's Congress is the arena in which a lot of bureaucratic fights are fought...&#34;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What tough questions? Care to give any examples? how did you hear about these quietly asked questions? sources pls! i do remember a story some NPC members actively argueing against the 3gorges dams during an NPC session and had their microphones suddenly switched off. mind you that must has been years ago under JZM; i wonder how China's political systems has changed since. I had previously thought your description of Japan's policy making would apply just as well to China.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twofish sez: &quot;&#8230;China has the opposite situation, in that the legislature is not democratic, but it does tend to quietly ask some pretty tough questions since the National People&#8217;s Congress is the arena in which a lot of bureaucratic fights are fought&#8230;&quot;</p>
<p>What tough questions? Care to give any examples? how did you hear about these quietly asked questions? sources pls! i do remember a story some NPC members actively argueing against the 3gorges dams during an NPC session and had their microphones suddenly switched off. mind you that must has been years ago under JZM; i wonder how China&#8217;s political systems has changed since. I had previously thought your description of Japan&#8217;s policy making would apply just as well to China.</p>
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		<title>By: df</title>
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		<dc:creator>df</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 09:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>except Spain and UK private debt is much lower in Europe than in USA.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;and Netherlands and Ireland&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Simply put all the countries with low unemployment are country with high private household debt and high home prices... &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;China is doomed and DC is just fun to read. If anybody wants sustaible growth then it s easy to understand that it works through balanced trade, strong environmental protection, a fair divide of the value added and stable private debt.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do you see that in any country in the world right now ? &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I see developping countries depending on exports, with wages too low to provide home consumption and HUGE environmental destruction and on top of this companies with HUGE debt loads... So it s easy to see that they ll be belly up pretty soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>except Spain and UK private debt is much lower in Europe than in USA.</p>
<p>and Netherlands and Ireland</p>
<p>Simply put all the countries with low unemployment are country with high private household debt and high home prices&#8230; </p>
<p>China is doomed and DC is just fun to read. If anybody wants sustaible growth then it s easy to understand that it works through balanced trade, strong environmental protection, a fair divide of the value added and stable private debt.</p>
<p>Do you see that in any country in the world right now ? </p>
<p>I see developping countries depending on exports, with wages too low to provide home consumption and HUGE environmental destruction and on top of this companies with HUGE debt loads&#8230; So it s easy to see that they ll be belly up pretty soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Twofish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twofish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the stock price is at 60, then both 50 and 15 are going to be out of the money, and very cheap, and if you know the price is going to zero, you are going to be making much more with 50 than 15, and you can leverage by borrowing money for the options.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I do suspect that most of the deep-deep out of the money put options were bought by people holding credit default swaps on Bear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the stock price is at 60, then both 50 and 15 are going to be out of the money, and very cheap, and if you know the price is going to zero, you are going to be making much more with 50 than 15, and you can leverage by borrowing money for the options.</p>
<p>I do suspect that most of the deep-deep out of the money put options were bought by people holding credit default swaps on Bear.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#34;If you really wanted to make money off the Bear-Stearn crash, then deep out of the money puts would not have helped you. To maximize your profit you'd buy a put option that was only slightly out of the money. If you known the Bear stock selling at 60 was going to tank, you'd buy put options at 50 and not 15.&#34;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;wrong. more leverage with the out of the money&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;If you really wanted to make money off the Bear-Stearn crash, then deep out of the money puts would not have helped you. To maximize your profit you&#8217;d buy a put option that was only slightly out of the money. If you known the Bear stock selling at 60 was going to tank, you&#8217;d buy put options at 50 and not 15.&quot;</p>
<p>wrong. more leverage with the out of the money</p>
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		<title>By: Twofish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twofish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 02:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way, the &#34;Bear-Stearn conspiracy theory&#34; doesn't make sense.  If you really wanted to make money off the Bear-Stearn crash, then deep out of the money puts would not have helped you.  To maximize your profit you'd buy a put option that was only slightly out of the money.  If you known the Bear stock selling at 60 was going to tank, you'd buy put options at 50 and not 15.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The fact that people started selling puts at 15, told you that the market was thinking that Bear was rather jittery.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also there is no way that insiders could have benefited from this without sirens going off.  Among other things, people in the financial industry are not allowed to short stocks in their own accounts, and all accounts that you or anyone in your household gave control over send regular reports to compliance.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way, the &quot;Bear-Stearn conspiracy theory&quot; doesn&#8217;t make sense.  If you really wanted to make money off the Bear-Stearn crash, then deep out of the money puts would not have helped you.  To maximize your profit you&#8217;d buy a put option that was only slightly out of the money.  If you known the Bear stock selling at 60 was going to tank, you&#8217;d buy put options at 50 and not 15.</p>
<p>The fact that people started selling puts at 15, told you that the market was thinking that Bear was rather jittery.</p>
<p>Also there is no way that insiders could have benefited from this without sirens going off.  Among other things, people in the financial industry are not allowed to short stocks in their own accounts, and all accounts that you or anyone in your household gave control over send regular reports to compliance.  </p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 01:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#34;...So what’s different this time? The single-most-important difference between this cycle and previous ones is that emerging markets as a group are no longer dependent upon external capital flows to finance their own economic growth... We are now in the early stages of a sustained growth of consumer credit in EM economies... The still-low level of wages in many countries suggests that income gains for emerging market workers and consumers will continue into the future. Over the long-term wage levels in emerging market countries will likely rise to converge with those in the developed economies. As they do the large population countries will become the largest sources of global demand, and in the process of arriving there the economies will have to “decouple” by definition...&#34; http://www.pimco.com/LeftNav/Featured+Market+Commentary/EMW/2008/Emerging+Markets+Watch+4-08+Mewbourne+Decoupling.htm&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#34;...With each passing year, the U.S. economy relies less on the production of agricultural and factory goods and more on services to fulfill the American Dream. Today, four-fifths of our jobs are in services... We are a service-sector-driven economy, plain and simple...The United States, like Chicago, can continue to prosper only if it faces economic change head-on, choosing to compete rather than retreat, seeking out new opportunities in a globalizing economy, where goods, services, money and ideas flow freely across international borders.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One of these opportunities—maybe the best one—lies in exporting services... Data from nearly all parts of the world show us that consumers tend to spend relatively less on goods and more on services as their incomes rise... Once people have met their basic needs, they tend to want medical care, transportation and communication, information, recreation, entertainment, financial and legal advice, and the like...China, India and other countries will shop the globe for what they cannot find at home or what is better elsewhere. Here, we have advantages in many areas. Medicine, finance, education, legal services, forensics, architecture and design, engineering technology, film and other aspects of entertainment—in these service areas and more, America is second to none... Productivity determines pay. And America’s services workers are among the world’s most productive... The capital of our times is human, not mechanical...workers create value with their minds... Economic theory tells us that nations will export what can be produced by factors they have in relative abundance. This is the principle of comparative advantage. Countries with significant mineral wealth will sell oil or copper. Those with large tracts of fertile land will sell wheat, corn or beef. Those with cheap labor and large stocks of machinery—think China—will sell run-of-the-mill factory goods. America’s highly knowledgeable and experienced services workers are our nation’s relatively abundant factor. That is what we sell to the world. That is where our future lies...&#34; http://www.dallasfed.org/news/speeches/fisher/2008/fs080417.cfm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;&#8230;So what’s different this time? The single-most-important difference between this cycle and previous ones is that emerging markets as a group are no longer dependent upon external capital flows to finance their own economic growth&#8230; We are now in the early stages of a sustained growth of consumer credit in EM economies&#8230; The still-low level of wages in many countries suggests that income gains for emerging market workers and consumers will continue into the future. Over the long-term wage levels in emerging market countries will likely rise to converge with those in the developed economies. As they do the large population countries will become the largest sources of global demand, and in the process of arriving there the economies will have to “decouple” by definition&#8230;&quot; <a href="http://www.pimco.com/LeftNav/Featured+Market+Commentary/EMW/2008/Emerging+Markets+Watch+4-08+Mewbourne+Decoupling.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.pimco.com/LeftNav/Featured+Market+Commentary/EMW/2008/Emerging+Markets+Watch+4-08+Mewbourne+Decoupling.htm</a></p>
<p>&quot;&#8230;With each passing year, the U.S. economy relies less on the production of agricultural and factory goods and more on services to fulfill the American Dream. Today, four-fifths of our jobs are in services&#8230; We are a service-sector-driven economy, plain and simple&#8230;The United States, like Chicago, can continue to prosper only if it faces economic change head-on, choosing to compete rather than retreat, seeking out new opportunities in a globalizing economy, where goods, services, money and ideas flow freely across international borders.</p>
<p>One of these opportunities—maybe the best one—lies in exporting services&#8230; Data from nearly all parts of the world show us that consumers tend to spend relatively less on goods and more on services as their incomes rise&#8230; Once people have met their basic needs, they tend to want medical care, transportation and communication, information, recreation, entertainment, financial and legal advice, and the like&#8230;China, India and other countries will shop the globe for what they cannot find at home or what is better elsewhere. Here, we have advantages in many areas. Medicine, finance, education, legal services, forensics, architecture and design, engineering technology, film and other aspects of entertainment—in these service areas and more, America is second to none&#8230; Productivity determines pay. And America’s services workers are among the world’s most productive&#8230; The capital of our times is human, not mechanical&#8230;workers create value with their minds&#8230; Economic theory tells us that nations will export what can be produced by factors they have in relative abundance. This is the principle of comparative advantage. Countries with significant mineral wealth will sell oil or copper. Those with large tracts of fertile land will sell wheat, corn or beef. Those with cheap labor and large stocks of machinery—think China—will sell run-of-the-mill factory goods. America’s highly knowledgeable and experienced services workers are our nation’s relatively abundant factor. That is what we sell to the world. That is where our future lies&#8230;&quot; <a href="http://www.dallasfed.org/news/speeches/fisher/2008/fs080417.cfm" rel="nofollow">http://www.dallasfed.org/news/speeches/fisher/2008/fs080417.cfm</a></p>
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		<title>By: bsetser</title>
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		<dc:creator>bsetser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>2fish -- I started bashing China's exchange rate regime back when the US economy was strong (by conventional measures) ;)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Guest --&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&#34;What would you think of a country that accepts garbage financial instruments for cash, you think that country will last ?&#34;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;what is the over under on China lasting ten years?  Last I checked, China had a lot more US agencies on its central bank balance sheet than the fed, and a currency mismatch to boot.  And then there is the CIC, which handed over cash for blackstone's equity ... &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you look at my actual post, i think you will see a lot of recognition that the US is in a bit of trouble (the dollar is weak b/c US fundamentals are weak -- that isn't exactly rah rah american is great).   at the same time the reality is that a lot of other governments are through their central banks providing a lot of credit to the US ... more quite frankly than I think is healthy for the US.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;above all tho i don't get why a whole set of countries that think the US is the source of much global trouble still link their currency to the dollar, the currency of the prime trouble maker ... that ain't the fault of the yanks, generally speaking, tho we seem guilty of putting some pressure on the gulf to stick to their pegs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2fish &#8212; I started bashing China&#8217;s exchange rate regime back when the US economy was strong (by conventional measures) <img src='http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Guest &#8211;</p>
<p>&quot;What would you think of a country that accepts garbage financial instruments for cash, you think that country will last ?&quot;</p>
<p>what is the over under on China lasting ten years?  Last I checked, China had a lot more US agencies on its central bank balance sheet than the fed, and a currency mismatch to boot.  And then there is the CIC, which handed over cash for blackstone&#8217;s equity &#8230; </p>
<p>If you look at my actual post, i think you will see a lot of recognition that the US is in a bit of trouble (the dollar is weak b/c US fundamentals are weak &#8212; that isn&#8217;t exactly rah rah american is great).   at the same time the reality is that a lot of other governments are through their central banks providing a lot of credit to the US &#8230; more quite frankly than I think is healthy for the US.  </p>
<p>above all tho i don&#8217;t get why a whole set of countries that think the US is the source of much global trouble still link their currency to the dollar, the currency of the prime trouble maker &#8230; that ain&#8217;t the fault of the yanks, generally speaking, tho we seem guilty of putting some pressure on the gulf to stick to their pegs.</p>
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		<title>By: Twofish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twofish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly I think that a large part of the China bashing that is going on right now is because the US economy is weak.  The logic is that &#34;yes our economy is falling apart but at least we don't molest kittens (or whatever the EVVVVEEEELLL Chinese government is up to).&#34;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly I think that a large part of the China bashing that is going on right now is because the US economy is weak.  The logic is that &quot;yes our economy is falling apart but at least we don&#8217;t molest kittens (or whatever the EVVVVEEEELLL Chinese government is up to).&quot;</p>
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		<title>By: Twofish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twofish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rumor in financial circles (which has been noted in the New York Times) is that some hedge funds went &#34;Bear hunting&#34;.  They arranged their positions so that they would massively win if Bear went under, and then started spreading rumors so that Bear did.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Certainly none of the Bear insiders made any money from the deal.  The Fed insisted on a low purchase price specifically to punish Bear-Stearns and also didn't open the discount window to broker-dealers until after Bear was dead.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;DC: If after all is said and done the $25 Billion primary assets are sold for more that $25 Billion, the difference goes to J.P. Morgan regardless of the outcome on the secondary facility of $30 Billion. No matter how you cut it, J.P. Morgan wins. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Pretty much.  The reason for this is that the Fed didn't have much choice.  The second Asian markets opened, there was a chance that the world financial system would have disintegrated if a deal hadn't been made.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;DC: The best the FED can do is get their money back with interest and the worse they can do is lose about $25 -$40 billion. The FED would have been far better to just buy the assets at Bear's and J.P.Morgan's valuation.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Federal Reserve doesn't have the people or the expertise to run an investment bank.  To make the deal work, you have to guarantee the trades that you make, which means that you need someone looking over the traders shoulders.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Also, I don't think that the Fed has the legal authority to buy a bank, and it wasn't going to get in less than 24 hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rumor in financial circles (which has been noted in the New York Times) is that some hedge funds went &quot;Bear hunting&quot;.  They arranged their positions so that they would massively win if Bear went under, and then started spreading rumors so that Bear did.</p>
<p>Certainly none of the Bear insiders made any money from the deal.  The Fed insisted on a low purchase price specifically to punish Bear-Stearns and also didn&#8217;t open the discount window to broker-dealers until after Bear was dead.</p>
<p>DC: If after all is said and done the $25 Billion primary assets are sold for more that $25 Billion, the difference goes to J.P. Morgan regardless of the outcome on the secondary facility of $30 Billion. No matter how you cut it, J.P. Morgan wins. </p>
<p>Pretty much.  The reason for this is that the Fed didn&#8217;t have much choice.  The second Asian markets opened, there was a chance that the world financial system would have disintegrated if a deal hadn&#8217;t been made.  </p>
<p>DC: The best the FED can do is get their money back with interest and the worse they can do is lose about $25 -$40 billion. The FED would have been far better to just buy the assets at Bear&#8217;s and J.P.Morgan&#8217;s valuation.</p>
<p>The Federal Reserve doesn&#8217;t have the people or the expertise to run an investment bank.  To make the deal work, you have to guarantee the trades that you make, which means that you need someone looking over the traders shoulders.</p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t think that the Fed has the legal authority to buy a bank, and it wasn&#8217;t going to get in less than 24 hours.</p>
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