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		<title>By: observer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/04/23/stable-capital-or-scared-capital/#comment-107205</link>
		<dc:creator>observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DC - Off-topic but since you are aware of my views on the Tibet issue, do you think the US news media should be held accountable for disinformation and libel.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do you think the Chinese government should be held accountable for preventing media coverage in Tibet (not to mention human-rights violations)?&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Jingoistic opinions from any country is really stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DC &#8211; Off-topic but since you are aware of my views on the Tibet issue, do you think the US news media should be held accountable for disinformation and libel.</p>
<p>Do you think the Chinese government should be held accountable for preventing media coverage in Tibet (not to mention human-rights violations)?</p>
<p>Jingoistic opinions from any country is really stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Twofish</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/04/23/stable-capital-or-scared-capital/#comment-107204</link>
		<dc:creator>Twofish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JB: My only argument is that $1 Trillion dollars is not going to be poorly managed.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The thing about a trillion is that it is very hard to do mattress artbtrage.  If you have $10 million, you aren&#039;t going to have negative interest rates, since you&#039;d go to the bank, withdraw all your money and put into your mattress.  You can&#039;t do this with a trillion, and it may well be that taking a 10-20% loss is the best that you can do.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;One problem with diversifying out of the dollar, is where do you go?  If you have dollars, then you can buy US treasuries, whereas there isn&#039;t an equivalent liquid store of value for the euro.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;JB: Brad, I am surprised that the US Dollar demand by these enormous funds hasn&#039;t done more to buoy its valuation&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;They are exchanging dollar denominated debt for other dollar denominated debt which means that there is no change in the demand.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What&#039;s happened over the last few months is your classic bank run, and the only reason you don&#039;t seem panicking people standing in line like you do in the movies is that everything is done over the internet now.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JB: My only argument is that $1 Trillion dollars is not going to be poorly managed.</p>
<p>The thing about a trillion is that it is very hard to do mattress artbtrage.  If you have $10 million, you aren&#8217;t going to have negative interest rates, since you&#8217;d go to the bank, withdraw all your money and put into your mattress.  You can&#8217;t do this with a trillion, and it may well be that taking a 10-20% loss is the best that you can do.</p>
<p>One problem with diversifying out of the dollar, is where do you go?  If you have dollars, then you can buy US treasuries, whereas there isn&#8217;t an equivalent liquid store of value for the euro.</p>
<p>JB: Brad, I am surprised that the US Dollar demand by these enormous funds hasn&#8217;t done more to buoy its valuation</p>
<p>They are exchanging dollar denominated debt for other dollar denominated debt which means that there is no change in the demand.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s happened over the last few months is your classic bank run, and the only reason you don&#8217;t seem panicking people standing in line like you do in the movies is that everything is done over the internet now.</p>
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		<title>By: bsetser</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/04/23/stable-capital-or-scared-capital/#comment-107203</link>
		<dc:creator>bsetser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JB -- most of the big gulf SWFs have a pretty balanced portfolio, while CBs are on average more like 65 $ (depending on where you think the non-reporting EMs are).  so the SWFs aren&#039;t obviously a $ positive.  The CBs are buying $ b/c no one else wants too - -and they are trying to keep their currencies from rising.  strong reserve growth in my view is a sign of dollar weakness, not the cause ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JB &#8212; most of the big gulf SWFs have a pretty balanced portfolio, while CBs are on average more like 65 $ (depending on where you think the non-reporting EMs are).  so the SWFs aren&#8217;t obviously a $ positive.  The CBs are buying $ b/c no one else wants too &#8211; -and they are trying to keep their currencies from rising.  strong reserve growth in my view is a sign of dollar weakness, not the cause &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: DC</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/04/23/stable-capital-or-scared-capital/#comment-107202</link>
		<dc:creator>DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Brad,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Off-topic but since you are aware of my views on the Tibet issue, do you think the US news media should be held accountable for disinformation and libel.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Western Media Fabrications regarding the Tibet Riots - Fake Videotape used by CNN http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&amp;aid=8697 &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On the day of the Lhasa Riots (March 14, 2008), there is evidence of media fabrication by CNN. The videotape presented by CNN in its News Report on the 14th of March (1.00pm EST) was manipulated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad,</p>
<p>Off-topic but since you are aware of my views on the Tibet issue, do you think the US news media should be held accountable for disinformation and libel.</p>
<p>Western Media Fabrications regarding the Tibet Riots &#8211; Fake Videotape used by CNN <a href="http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&amp;aid=8697" rel="nofollow">http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&amp;aid=8697</a> </p>
<p>On the day of the Lhasa Riots (March 14, 2008), there is evidence of media fabrication by CNN. The videotape presented by CNN in its News Report on the 14th of March (1.00pm EST) was manipulated.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 20:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twofish,I&#039;m not a doomsday predictor that thinks the dollar will stop being the primary reserve currrency.  My understanding is that it composes 2/3 of the currency reserves globally.  My only argument is that $1 Trillion dollars is not going to be poorly managed.  The market changes over the past year, coupled with currency devaluation...doesn&#039;t indicate a stellar fund performance.  After all change is the only constant.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Brad, I am surprised that the US Dollar demand by these enormous funds hasn&#039;t done more to buoy its valuation.  I think this means that SWFs are not only a macroeconomic mover but also subject to macroeconomic moves.  A casino dealer if you will.  I think this one has had a recent run of bad hands.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twofish,I&#8217;m not a doomsday predictor that thinks the dollar will stop being the primary reserve currrency.  My understanding is that it composes 2/3 of the currency reserves globally.  My only argument is that $1 Trillion dollars is not going to be poorly managed.  The market changes over the past year, coupled with currency devaluation&#8230;doesn&#8217;t indicate a stellar fund performance.  After all change is the only constant.</p>
<p>Brad, I am surprised that the US Dollar demand by these enormous funds hasn&#8217;t done more to buoy its valuation.  I think this means that SWFs are not only a macroeconomic mover but also subject to macroeconomic moves.  A casino dealer if you will.  I think this one has had a recent run of bad hands.</p>
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		<title>By: bsetser</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/04/23/stable-capital-or-scared-capital/#comment-107200</link>
		<dc:creator>bsetser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JB -- I don&#039;t know.   I don&#039;t have any clear data on the SWF participation in the recent hybrid deals.    My guess is that they played a modest role -- these deals are clearly different from the deals directly with the swfs in dec/ jan.   i would be a bit surprised if the SWFs were buying the ABX, but that is based more on a sense that the Gulf likes equity market risk more than debt market risk.  In general my sense is that the funds are more worried about buying in too early than buying in too late, but i really don&#039;t know.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;what i do know is that someone is still buying a lot treasuries and agencies, and that the &quot;diversification&quot; process hasn&#039;t really started for a lot of big players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JB &#8212; I don&#8217;t know.   I don&#8217;t have any clear data on the SWF participation in the recent hybrid deals.    My guess is that they played a modest role &#8212; these deals are clearly different from the deals directly with the swfs in dec/ jan.   i would be a bit surprised if the SWFs were buying the ABX, but that is based more on a sense that the Gulf likes equity market risk more than debt market risk.  In general my sense is that the funds are more worried about buying in too early than buying in too late, but i really don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>what i do know is that someone is still buying a lot treasuries and agencies, and that the &quot;diversification&quot; process hasn&#8217;t really started for a lot of big players.</p>
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		<title>By: Twofish</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/04/23/stable-capital-or-scared-capital/#comment-107199</link>
		<dc:creator>Twofish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JB: &#039;ve heard Bill Gross (the titan of fixed income) comment that T-bills are the most overvalued fixed income instrument on the market.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The trouble is that everything else is based on the value of T-bills on the theory (which seems correct) that if T-bills go belly up, so will everything else.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;JB: They have to be losing big by being in dollar denominated bills. Why not hold reserves in Australia, Switzerland, etc.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Because the Australian and Swiss economies are just not big enough to hold all these reserves.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The Euro is the only thing that could possibly compete against the dollar as a reserve currency, and switching a trillion dollars is not something you can do easily.  One problem is that to be a seller you have to have a buyer, and there aren&#039;t that many people out there wanting to buy another trillion dollars.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It&#039;s again the foundational problem.  Even if you think that the US economy is run badly and the dollar should tumble, the value of everything else is built on top of the dollar.  So if there is a total collapse of the dollar, it&#039;s going to take everything else with it.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JB: &#8216;ve heard Bill Gross (the titan of fixed income) comment that T-bills are the most overvalued fixed income instrument on the market.</p>
<p>The trouble is that everything else is based on the value of T-bills on the theory (which seems correct) that if T-bills go belly up, so will everything else.</p>
<p>JB: They have to be losing big by being in dollar denominated bills. Why not hold reserves in Australia, Switzerland, etc.</p>
<p>Because the Australian and Swiss economies are just not big enough to hold all these reserves.  </p>
<p>The Euro is the only thing that could possibly compete against the dollar as a reserve currency, and switching a trillion dollars is not something you can do easily.  One problem is that to be a seller you have to have a buyer, and there aren&#8217;t that many people out there wanting to buy another trillion dollars.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s again the foundational problem.  Even if you think that the US economy is run badly and the dollar should tumble, the value of everything else is built on top of the dollar.  So if there is a total collapse of the dollar, it&#8217;s going to take everything else with it.</p>
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		<title>By: bsetser</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/04/23/stable-capital-or-scared-capital/#comment-107198</link>
		<dc:creator>bsetser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DC -- the argument that the US invaded iraq to preserve dollar hegemony is &quot;old ground&quot;; the ongoing US presence is Iraq is a live issue, but it isn&#039;t really on topic.   And I think we are all aware of your views on the Tibet issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DC &#8212; the argument that the US invaded iraq to preserve dollar hegemony is &quot;old ground&quot;; the ongoing US presence is Iraq is a live issue, but it isn&#8217;t really on topic.   And I think we are all aware of your views on the Tibet issue.</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 19:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Do you think that Sovereign Wealth Funds participate in the hybrid debt / equity raisings by Citi, Merrill, etc?  I&#039;ve heard Bill Gross (the titan of fixed income) comment that T-bills are the most overvalued fixed income instrument on the market.  I think petrodollars are ready to dump t-bills big time if a low risk, high yield investment becomes apparent in the market.  They have to be losing big by being in dollar denominated bills.  Why not hold reserves in Australia, Switzerland, etc.  Inflation concerns have to be equally alarming to these big fund managers.  I think the Petrodollars are also partially responsible for driving ABX indices through the floor.  Agree?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad,</p>
<p>Do you think that Sovereign Wealth Funds participate in the hybrid debt / equity raisings by Citi, Merrill, etc?  I&#8217;ve heard Bill Gross (the titan of fixed income) comment that T-bills are the most overvalued fixed income instrument on the market.  I think petrodollars are ready to dump t-bills big time if a low risk, high yield investment becomes apparent in the market.  They have to be losing big by being in dollar denominated bills.  Why not hold reserves in Australia, Switzerland, etc.  Inflation concerns have to be equally alarming to these big fund managers.  I think the Petrodollars are also partially responsible for driving ABX indices through the floor.  Agree?</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/04/23/stable-capital-or-scared-capital/#comment-107196</link>
		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 18:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr David Rockefeller, published in 2002 &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;For more than a century ideological extremists [sic] at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicised incidents such as my encounter with Castro, to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and over economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as &quot;internationalists&quot; and of conspiring with others around the world to build a new global political and economic world order? one world, if you will. If that&#039;s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr David Rockefeller, published in 2002 </p>
<p>For more than a century ideological extremists [sic] at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicised incidents such as my encounter with Castro, to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and over economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as &quot;internationalists&quot; and of conspiring with others around the world to build a new global political and economic world order? one world, if you will. If that&#8217;s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it&#8217;</p>
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