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]]> By: Posts of the Week: 7/21 - 7/27 | China Stocks Blog http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/07/22/just-how-much-will-china%e2%80%99s-economy-slow-and-will-china-also-slow-the-pace-of-rmb-appreciation/#comment-110734 Posts of the Week: 7/21 - 7/27 | China Stocks Blog Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:56:20 +0000 http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/07/22/just-how-much-will-china%e2%80%99s-economy-slow-and-will-china-also-slow-the-pace-of-rmb-appreciation/#comment-110734 [...] How fast will China’s economy slow? And will China also slow the pace of RMB appreciation? at Brad Setser And related commentary at Free Exchange [...] [...] How fast will China’s economy slow? And will China also slow the pace of RMB appreciation? at Brad Setser And related commentary at Free Exchange [...]

]]> By: Posts of the Week: 7/21 - 7/27 | 1800blogger http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/07/22/just-how-much-will-china%e2%80%99s-economy-slow-and-will-china-also-slow-the-pace-of-rmb-appreciation/#comment-110733 Posts of the Week: 7/21 - 7/27 | 1800blogger Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:55:35 +0000 http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/07/22/just-how-much-will-china%e2%80%99s-economy-slow-and-will-china-also-slow-the-pace-of-rmb-appreciation/#comment-110733 [...] How fast will China’s economy slow? And will China also slow the pace of RMB appreciation? at Brad Setser And related commentary at Free Exchange [...] [...] How fast will China’s economy slow? And will China also slow the pace of RMB appreciation? at Brad Setser And related commentary at Free Exchange [...]

]]> By: don http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/07/22/just-how-much-will-china%e2%80%99s-economy-slow-and-will-china-also-slow-the-pace-of-rmb-appreciation/#comment-110705 don Sat, 26 Jul 2008 22:07:49 +0000 http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/07/22/just-how-much-will-china%e2%80%99s-economy-slow-and-will-china-also-slow-the-pace-of-rmb-appreciation/#comment-110705 Twofish: "The problem with bringing in expatriate employees and making the locals angry is something that the Chinese government has to look at since this is a one of the big triggers for the mess in Tibet." Are these problems really similar? Did Chinese pay for the land they inhabit in Tibet, or is it more like the British in Ireland? Twofish:
“The problem with bringing in expatriate employees and making the locals angry is something that the Chinese government has to look at since this is a one of the big triggers for the mess in Tibet.”
Are these problems really similar? Did Chinese pay for the land they inhabit in Tibet, or is it more like the British in Ireland?

]]> By: Hector http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/07/22/just-how-much-will-china%e2%80%99s-economy-slow-and-will-china-also-slow-the-pace-of-rmb-appreciation/#comment-110621 Hector Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:16:37 +0000 http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/07/22/just-how-much-will-china%e2%80%99s-economy-slow-and-will-china-also-slow-the-pace-of-rmb-appreciation/#comment-110621 2fish: Also, I think that the fact that China is acting out of self-interest is I think a good thing, since a lot of nasty stuff gets excused with the idea that “we meant well.” If you do something out of charity then the relationship is unequal. Though one must admit that Western ODA policies have had and still have serious weaknesses, I really do think that the debate has overcome for a long time a mere opposition between charity and self-interest. There is room in between but this implies a huge involvement from local governments, which is often missing. All these stuff have fed a long ongoing debate. China is arriving on this field as if they knew better than anyone, but I do not believe there is a “Chinese way” of assistance. I only believe there is a combination of circumstances: ODA from the West is shrinking; China is getting richer and badly needs natural resources. 2fish: Also, I think that the fact that China is acting out of self-interest is I think a good thing, since a lot of nasty stuff gets excused with the idea that “we meant well.” If you do something out of charity then the relationship is unequal.

Though one must admit that Western ODA policies have had and still have serious weaknesses, I really do think that the debate has overcome for a long time a mere opposition between charity and self-interest. There is room in between but this implies a huge involvement from local governments, which is often missing. All these stuff have fed a long ongoing debate. China is arriving on this field as if they knew better than anyone, but
I do not believe there is a “Chinese way” of assistance. I only believe there is a combination of circumstances: ODA from the West is shrinking; China is getting richer and badly needs natural resources.

]]> By: Twofish http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/07/22/just-how-much-will-china%e2%80%99s-economy-slow-and-will-china-also-slow-the-pace-of-rmb-appreciation/#comment-110614 Twofish Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:53:54 +0000 http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/07/22/just-how-much-will-china%e2%80%99s-economy-slow-and-will-china-also-slow-the-pace-of-rmb-appreciation/#comment-110614 The neo-conservatives had a political agenda against China, but they have completely and utterly failed at it, because they had no understanding of global finance. With China's money such a critical part of the US economy, the United States is simply not able to create an aggressive military buildup against China, unless Beijing does something very, very stupid. At this point overreaction to the remnants of neo-conservatives is far more dangerous to China than the neo-conservatives are. Sinomania: Could it be that Wolfowitz is just shepherding on Lockheed’s behalf? Absolutely, that's his job. His current position is head of the US-Taiwan Business Council, and part of that is to promote the interests of US companies that do business with Taiwan including defense contractors. However, it's amusing to see US conservatives trying to get Taiwan to buy weapons that Taiwan is somewhat lukewarm about. What they are really concerned about is that if the arms shipments don't get approved now, they may never get approved at all, with the new administration coming in. The neo-conservatives had a political agenda against China, but they have completely and utterly failed at it, because they had no understanding of global finance. With China’s money such a critical part of the US economy, the United States is simply not able to create an aggressive military buildup against China, unless Beijing does something very, very stupid.

At this point overreaction to the remnants of neo-conservatives is far more dangerous to China than the neo-conservatives are.

Sinomania: Could it be that Wolfowitz is just shepherding on Lockheed’s behalf?

Absolutely, that’s his job. His current position is head of the US-Taiwan Business Council, and part of that is to promote the interests of US companies that do business with Taiwan including defense contractors.

However, it’s amusing to see US conservatives trying to get Taiwan to buy weapons that Taiwan is somewhat lukewarm about. What they are really concerned about is that if the arms shipments don’t get approved now, they may never get approved at all, with the new administration coming in.

]]> By: Sinomania! http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/07/22/just-how-much-will-china%e2%80%99s-economy-slow-and-will-china-also-slow-the-pace-of-rmb-appreciation/#comment-110613 Sinomania! Thu, 24 Jul 2008 21:32:59 +0000 http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/07/22/just-how-much-will-china%e2%80%99s-economy-slow-and-will-china-also-slow-the-pace-of-rmb-appreciation/#comment-110613 Could it be that Wolfowitz is just shepherding on Lockheed's behalf? By way of associations going back years he is connected to Lockheed-Martin and Lockheed will most likely get most of that $11 billion wish list. Could it be that Wolfowitz is just shepherding on Lockheed’s behalf? By way of associations going back years he is connected to Lockheed-Martin and Lockheed will most likely get most of that $11 billion wish list.

]]> By: Dave Chiang http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/07/22/just-how-much-will-china%e2%80%99s-economy-slow-and-will-china-also-slow-the-pace-of-rmb-appreciation/#comment-110609 Dave Chiang Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:03:57 +0000 http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/07/22/just-how-much-will-china%e2%80%99s-economy-slow-and-will-china-also-slow-the-pace-of-rmb-appreciation/#comment-110609 Twofish, A Goldfish doesn't have a memory that last longer than 20 seconds. The Neo-cons have much longer memories. Wolfowitz invasion plans for Iraq were first proposed during the first Bush Sr. Administration, and then implemented during the current "little" Bush administration. It's a not so secret, secret that US Intelligence agencies consider the Chinese to be the top strategic threat of the 21st century. Even as the US fights Muslim extremists across the Middle East, the really big bucks are being spent on the Pacific island of Guam is being turned a superbase with B-1 and B-2 Nuclear strike bombers and attack submarines. Two-thirds of the US Navy fleet is being redeployed to the Pacific theater. The $300 million dollar Stealth Fighter has never been deployed in Iraq, but is being deployed to Japan, Guam, Hawaii and Alaska. Hint: It isn't little North Korea that the US military under Neo-con leadership is stacking massive firepower against. Twofish,

A Goldfish doesn’t have a memory that last longer than 20 seconds. The Neo-cons have much longer memories. Wolfowitz invasion plans for Iraq were first proposed during the first Bush Sr. Administration, and then implemented during the current “little” Bush administration. It’s a not so secret, secret that US Intelligence agencies consider the Chinese to be the top strategic threat of the 21st century. Even as the US fights Muslim extremists across the Middle East, the really big bucks are being spent on the Pacific island of Guam is being turned a superbase with B-1 and B-2 Nuclear strike bombers and attack submarines. Two-thirds of the US Navy fleet is being redeployed to the Pacific theater. The $300 million dollar Stealth Fighter has never been deployed in Iraq, but is being deployed to Japan, Guam, Hawaii and Alaska. Hint: It isn’t little North Korea that the US military under Neo-con leadership is stacking massive firepower against.

]]> By: Twofish http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/07/22/just-how-much-will-china%e2%80%99s-economy-slow-and-will-china-also-slow-the-pace-of-rmb-appreciation/#comment-110605 Twofish Thu, 24 Jul 2008 15:11:29 +0000 http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/07/22/just-how-much-will-china%e2%80%99s-economy-slow-and-will-china-also-slow-the-pace-of-rmb-appreciation/#comment-110605 DC: I think Paul Wolfowitz knows a lot more about the inside scoop on China policy than your goldfish. I don't. My goldfish may have more inside information on China policy than Wolfowitz does. DC: I think Paul Wolfowitz knows a lot more about the inside scoop on China policy than your goldfish.

I don’t. My goldfish may have more inside information on China policy than Wolfowitz does.

]]> By: Rien Huizer http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/07/22/just-how-much-will-china%e2%80%99s-economy-slow-and-will-china-also-slow-the-pace-of-rmb-appreciation/#comment-110604 Rien Huizer Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:28:26 +0000 http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/07/22/just-how-much-will-china%e2%80%99s-economy-slow-and-will-china-also-slow-the-pace-of-rmb-appreciation/#comment-110604 DC, You may have wanted me to admit that I secretly yearn for the day that the first aircraft carrier of the Coxinga Class patrols the Straits of Formosa (Russian Hull, Israeli AA missiles, Chinese characteristics and planes on order) or the opposite . And of course I will gladly donate all of my nuclear arms for the Cause. But I did not mean cooperation, I meant mutually beneficial interaction. Not quite what certain people may have in mind, but pretty good to have. There is a lot more that binds the US, China (plus its renegade province, speaking about Coxinga) have in common than the US and Europe these days. The problem in the US is exactly those people who need a nationalist (-xenophobic) fetish, and orientalism is still alive and kicking. I was a neocon when these guys were still marxists.. (Quoted from the memoirs of Zhu Rongzhi) DC,

You may have wanted me to admit that I secretly yearn for the day that the first aircraft carrier of the Coxinga Class patrols the Straits of Formosa (Russian Hull, Israeli AA missiles, Chinese characteristics and planes on order) or the opposite . And of course I will gladly donate all of my nuclear arms for the Cause. But I did not mean cooperation, I meant mutually beneficial interaction. Not quite what certain people may have in mind, but pretty good to have. There is a lot more that binds the US, China (plus its renegade province, speaking about Coxinga) have in common than the US and Europe these days. The problem in the US is exactly those people who need a nationalist (-xenophobic) fetish, and orientalism is still alive and kicking. I was a neocon when these guys were still marxists.. (Quoted from the memoirs of Zhu Rongzhi)

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