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		<title>By: Brad Setser: Follow the Money &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How severe a slump in China?</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/08/10/value-added-in-chinas-export-sector-and-chinas-exposure-to-a-global-slump/#comment-117149</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Setser: Follow the Money &#187; Blog Archive &#187; How severe a slump in China?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2008 16:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 40% of China&#8217;s GDP. As importantly, the Chinese value-added in Chinese exports has increased; I have estimated that the value added in China&#8217;s export sector is now close to 20% of China&#8217;s GDP. Gross US exports are less than 15% of US GDP &#8212; and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] 40% of China&#8217;s GDP. As importantly, the Chinese value-added in Chinese exports has increased; I have estimated that the value added in China&#8217;s export sector is now close to 20% of China&#8217;s GDP. Gross US exports are less than 15% of US GDP &#8212; and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: What is Happening With China&#8217;s Economy? &#171; China Comment</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/08/10/value-added-in-chinas-export-sector-and-chinas-exposure-to-a-global-slump/#comment-113256</link>
		<dc:creator>What is Happening With China&#8217;s Economy? &#171; China Comment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 03:36:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;If the “Chinese content” of China’s goods export sector is around 50% (Vox), goods exports account for between 17 and 18% of China’s GDP. Exports of goods and services account for about 12% of US GDP&#8221; (Setser.) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;If the “Chinese content” of China’s goods export sector is around 50% (Vox), goods exports account for between 17 and 18% of China’s GDP. Exports of goods and services account for about 12% of US GDP&#8221; (Setser.) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Roundup: Moving Energy Efficiency Forward, RMB Moves In Proportion to Domestic Export, Blackstone&#8217;s Next China Plays &#124; All Roads Lead To China</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly Roundup: Moving Energy Efficiency Forward, RMB Moves In Proportion to Domestic Export, Blackstone&#8217;s Next China Plays &#124; All Roads Lead To China</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 12:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Setser at CFR has written Value-added in China’s export sector and China’s exposure to a global slump that analyzes the post How much of Chinese exports is really made in China?  on the “Chinese [...]</description>
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		<title>By: bsetser</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JKH -- yes, my transformation preserves the trade surplus, which strikes me as setting a minimum for the &quot;value-added&quot; in China&#039;s export sector.  And you are right to think that the share of exports that comes from imported components can be thought of as currency hedged, and with the &quot;value added&quot; component having exposure to the RMB/ $ and RMB/ euro (and thus indirectly to the euro/$0.  the import side has RMB/ $ exposure, but also has a lot of commodity price exposure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JKH &#8212; yes, my transformation preserves the trade surplus, which strikes me as setting a minimum for the &#8220;value-added&#8221; in China&#8217;s export sector.  And you are right to think that the share of exports that comes from imported components can be thought of as currency hedged, and with the &#8220;value added&#8221; component having exposure to the RMB/ $ and RMB/ euro (and thus indirectly to the euro/$0.  the import side has RMB/ $ exposure, but also has a lot of commodity price exposure.</p>
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		<title>By: JKH</title>
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		<dc:creator>JKH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bws – the following may be a slightly different way of looking at it, although I don’t know if it’s right:

Assume 50 per cent of China’s export value equates to embedded imports. You could think of this amount of exports and imports as the “currency hedged” trade position – i.e., in loose terms, hedged against RMB currency appreciation. E.g. it would reasonably hedged if these exports and imports were all denominated in US dollars; less so perhaps to the degree there is a currency mix. But in general, on this portion of trade flows, the lower RMB value of export revenues would tend to be offset by the lower RMB cost of embedded imports. RMB exposure at the macro level would tend to be immunized on the “hedged” trade position as defined. Exporters would not be forced to raise their prices as much on this portion of trade, for a given RMB appreciation. 

Then define the “un-hedged” trade position as total gross trade flows less the “hedged” position. This might also be referred to as the “value-added” trade position. By construction, the exchange rate sensitivity of the “un-hedged” position should equal the exchange rate sensitivity of the total trade position.

The “un-hedged” trade position has its own trade surplus, which is equivalent in size to the total trade surplus. This may be a little bit artificial, in that it associates the trade surplus, an aggregate net measure, with some specific gross components. But it seems like a reasonable decomposition for purposes of looking at foreign exchange risk.

The “un-hedged” trade position could be broken down further into the trade surplus plus the rest. This could be viewed as the “value-added” mismatched position (trade surplus) plus the “value-added” matched position.

The size of the un-hedged position and its components should then be assessed for foreign exchange risk relative to the size of GDP. Foreign exchange risk for GDP will then be a function of the size of the total un-hedged position and the profile of its mismatched and matched components, relative to GDP.

This seems to be roughly consistent with your own interpretation, regarding the importance of the size of China’s export sector to the conclusion of the article. Also, (correct me if I’m wrong), it seems to fit in the sense that your value-added percentage transformation in the second graph appears to preserve the size of the actual trade surplus by construction. I think the gap between your export value added and non-processing imports is what I’ve called the “un-hedged” trade surplus, which is equivalent to the actual (total) trade surplus.

Moreover, given the equivalence of the “un-hedged” trade surplus and the actual (total) trade surplus, it suggests in a strange way that the FX sensitivity of the trade surplus on its own is somewhat independent of the issue of import or domestic content. The size and proportion of the trade surplus, relative to total trade flows, represents a sort of upper bound for the embedded import content of exports and a lower bound for the domestic content. Again, I think this reinforces your modified statement regarding the conclusion of the paper. If this is a reasonable approach to FX risk on trade, what I haven’t started to consider is the relative GDP exposure to FX risk for each of the two components of the “un-hedged” trade position. Each adds some FX sensitivity, but I’m not sure how to think about that.

This is all very roundabout, perhaps, but the general idea seems consist with your statement:

“Exchange rate appreciation should have a smaller impact on China than on countries with similarly sized export sector and higher-domestic value-added. But given China’s geographic size, China’s export sector is actually quite large relative to its economy.”

(I put this together quite quickly; may well have goofed some point of logic. E.g. it would see, not work very well to the degree that imports were invoiced in currencies that were implicitly pegged to the RMB. I don’t know enough about the trade flows to know this. But it seems to contradict the starting premise of the article’s assumption about trade FX sensitivity.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bws – the following may be a slightly different way of looking at it, although I don’t know if it’s right:</p>
<p>Assume 50 per cent of China’s export value equates to embedded imports. You could think of this amount of exports and imports as the “currency hedged” trade position – i.e., in loose terms, hedged against RMB currency appreciation. E.g. it would reasonably hedged if these exports and imports were all denominated in US dollars; less so perhaps to the degree there is a currency mix. But in general, on this portion of trade flows, the lower RMB value of export revenues would tend to be offset by the lower RMB cost of embedded imports. RMB exposure at the macro level would tend to be immunized on the “hedged” trade position as defined. Exporters would not be forced to raise their prices as much on this portion of trade, for a given RMB appreciation. </p>
<p>Then define the “un-hedged” trade position as total gross trade flows less the “hedged” position. This might also be referred to as the “value-added” trade position. By construction, the exchange rate sensitivity of the “un-hedged” position should equal the exchange rate sensitivity of the total trade position.</p>
<p>The “un-hedged” trade position has its own trade surplus, which is equivalent in size to the total trade surplus. This may be a little bit artificial, in that it associates the trade surplus, an aggregate net measure, with some specific gross components. But it seems like a reasonable decomposition for purposes of looking at foreign exchange risk.</p>
<p>The “un-hedged” trade position could be broken down further into the trade surplus plus the rest. This could be viewed as the “value-added” mismatched position (trade surplus) plus the “value-added” matched position.</p>
<p>The size of the un-hedged position and its components should then be assessed for foreign exchange risk relative to the size of GDP. Foreign exchange risk for GDP will then be a function of the size of the total un-hedged position and the profile of its mismatched and matched components, relative to GDP.</p>
<p>This seems to be roughly consistent with your own interpretation, regarding the importance of the size of China’s export sector to the conclusion of the article. Also, (correct me if I’m wrong), it seems to fit in the sense that your value-added percentage transformation in the second graph appears to preserve the size of the actual trade surplus by construction. I think the gap between your export value added and non-processing imports is what I’ve called the “un-hedged” trade surplus, which is equivalent to the actual (total) trade surplus.</p>
<p>Moreover, given the equivalence of the “un-hedged” trade surplus and the actual (total) trade surplus, it suggests in a strange way that the FX sensitivity of the trade surplus on its own is somewhat independent of the issue of import or domestic content. The size and proportion of the trade surplus, relative to total trade flows, represents a sort of upper bound for the embedded import content of exports and a lower bound for the domestic content. Again, I think this reinforces your modified statement regarding the conclusion of the paper. If this is a reasonable approach to FX risk on trade, what I haven’t started to consider is the relative GDP exposure to FX risk for each of the two components of the “un-hedged” trade position. Each adds some FX sensitivity, but I’m not sure how to think about that.</p>
<p>This is all very roundabout, perhaps, but the general idea seems consist with your statement:</p>
<p>“Exchange rate appreciation should have a smaller impact on China than on countries with similarly sized export sector and higher-domestic value-added. But given China’s geographic size, China’s export sector is actually quite large relative to its economy.”</p>
<p>(I put this together quite quickly; may well have goofed some point of logic. E.g. it would see, not work very well to the degree that imports were invoiced in currencies that were implicitly pegged to the RMB. I don’t know enough about the trade flows to know this. But it seems to contradict the starting premise of the article’s assumption about trade FX sensitivity.)</p>
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		<title>By: AC</title>
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		<dc:creator>AC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:37:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The past week the dollar strengthened substantially. And I read somewhere that the Chinese will step up efforts to fight hot money inflow (eg. 30% penalty on illegal inflow, if it is found). I am wondering if this latter news had any effect on the dollar strength. Hot money inflow is a way of carry trade financed in dollar. The pullback of such trade would make the dollar stronger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The past week the dollar strengthened substantially. And I read somewhere that the Chinese will step up efforts to fight hot money inflow (eg. 30% penalty on illegal inflow, if it is found). I am wondering if this latter news had any effect on the dollar strength. Hot money inflow is a way of carry trade financed in dollar. The pullback of such trade would make the dollar stronger.</p>
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		<title>By: Rien Huizer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rien Huizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 01:39:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting. One way of looking t the implications would be to see a China as a single actor, with an exports-pushing mechanism (the high priority for growth in modern employment) facing decreasing spending capacity in ints exportmarkets. Its natural reaction (if facing no budget constraints for losses itself, would be to become more competitive, either by increasing customer value, lowering prices or both, in order to displace competitor sales. That would be an interesting game, specially if this non-recession takes a couple of years or more.
A more realistic and less caricatural view would be that this increase in value is often just a relocation  and deepening of production within MNCs, transfer of non- MNC factories from Taiwan plus the result of the completion of large scale upgrading/expansion of heavy industry (steel, chemicals).
In that case there could still be quite a bit of the former type (the jobs must be created) but also decreasing much more pressure on other Asian locations to become more competitive. 
A third view could be that China has reached critical scale for a host of supporting industries (for instance, there is now a large car industry, the leading car-airco maker neds 1.5 million units pa to justify a new factory (wage cost is not critical, that plant could even be in Japan and easily in Korea) If the various car production centers in China are now large enough to justify a standard plant, ll of these planst can suddenly also be upscaled to export t a very competitive cost. That might then avoid the need to build a second plant in fast growing East-Thailand. A simple example but there could be thousands. 
But it shows that Chin has now two outlets for surplus labor, expanding in the latest stages of export production, and substituting component exports. If this is done inefficiently and under state guidance, it may look a little like Argentina in the old dys, but it is more likely that it is the same process Korea went through in the 1970s or simply MNC logic. In both cases that would not necessarily be the bad od import-subtitution..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. One way of looking t the implications would be to see a China as a single actor, with an exports-pushing mechanism (the high priority for growth in modern employment) facing decreasing spending capacity in ints exportmarkets. Its natural reaction (if facing no budget constraints for losses itself, would be to become more competitive, either by increasing customer value, lowering prices or both, in order to displace competitor sales. That would be an interesting game, specially if this non-recession takes a couple of years or more.<br />
A more realistic and less caricatural view would be that this increase in value is often just a relocation  and deepening of production within MNCs, transfer of non- MNC factories from Taiwan plus the result of the completion of large scale upgrading/expansion of heavy industry (steel, chemicals).<br />
In that case there could still be quite a bit of the former type (the jobs must be created) but also decreasing much more pressure on other Asian locations to become more competitive.<br />
A third view could be that China has reached critical scale for a host of supporting industries (for instance, there is now a large car industry, the leading car-airco maker neds 1.5 million units pa to justify a new factory (wage cost is not critical, that plant could even be in Japan and easily in Korea) If the various car production centers in China are now large enough to justify a standard plant, ll of these planst can suddenly also be upscaled to export t a very competitive cost. That might then avoid the need to build a second plant in fast growing East-Thailand. A simple example but there could be thousands.<br />
But it shows that Chin has now two outlets for surplus labor, expanding in the latest stages of export production, and substituting component exports. If this is done inefficiently and under state guidance, it may look a little like Argentina in the old dys, but it is more likely that it is the same process Korea went through in the 1970s or simply MNC logic. In both cases that would not necessarily be the bad od import-subtitution..</p>
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