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	<title>Comments on: Some ballpark math on the US financial sector (i.e. just how big is $700b?)</title>
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		<title>By: Corporate Turnaround &#8211; Business Debt Management And Relief. &#171; Wicked Blogging</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/09/23/some-ballpark-bailout-math/#comment-133792</link>
		<dc:creator>Corporate Turnaround &#8211; Business Debt Management And Relief. &#171; Wicked Blogging</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Brad Setser: Follow the Money » Blog Archive » Some ballpark math &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Geo-Graphics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wall Street Bailout</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/09/23/some-ballpark-bailout-math/#comment-128569</link>
		<dc:creator>Geo-Graphics &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Wall Street Bailout</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 22:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] What’s the True Cost? Setser: Math on the Financial Sector Wolf: Paulson’s Plan Soros: Paulson Can’t be Allowed a Blank Cheque Gross: How Main Street Will [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] What’s the True Cost? Setser: Math on the Financial Sector Wolf: Paulson’s Plan Soros: Paulson Can’t be Allowed a Blank Cheque Gross: How Main Street Will [...]</p>
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		<title>By: surplus inventory</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/09/23/some-ballpark-bailout-math/#comment-115307</link>
		<dc:creator>surplus inventory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;surplus inventory...&lt;/strong&gt;

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<p>. The term is used colloquially for any kind of Linkback. This is similar to comment spam but avoids some of the safeguards designed&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: bsetser</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/09/23/some-ballpark-bailout-math/#comment-113707</link>
		<dc:creator>bsetser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2008 02:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the upper limit on outstanding mortgages -- from the flow of funds -- is $15 trillion.  that is the sum of commercial mortgages as well as residential mortgages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the upper limit on outstanding mortgages &#8212; from the flow of funds &#8212; is $15 trillion.  that is the sum of commercial mortgages as well as residential mortgages.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben C</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/09/23/some-ballpark-bailout-math/#comment-113663</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 20:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s an article on SeekingAlpha which throws out similar numbers (http://seekingalpha.com/article/96826-do-paulson-and-bernanke-really-understand-what-s-going-on). The thing is, that article says many of the losses will come from non-subprime mortgages and corporate debt, which he estimates at 20 trillion with perhaps a 5% default rate.

Is he just making up this 20 trillion number? It doesn&#039;t seem to jive with your numbers. What do you think of his analysis?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s an article on SeekingAlpha which throws out similar numbers (<a href="http://seekingalpha.com/article/96826-do-paulson-and-bernanke-really-understand-what-s-going-on)" rel="nofollow">http://seekingalpha.com/article/96826-do-paulson-and-bernanke-really-understand-what-s-going-on)</a>. The thing is, that article says many of the losses will come from non-subprime mortgages and corporate debt, which he estimates at 20 trillion with perhaps a 5% default rate.</p>
<p>Is he just making up this 20 trillion number? It doesn&#8217;t seem to jive with your numbers. What do you think of his analysis?</p>
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		<title>By: flow5</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/09/23/some-ballpark-bailout-math/#comment-113601</link>
		<dc:creator>flow5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 21:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>$700 bill to finance EXISTING property???  This has to exert a depressing effect on the economy.

Why not $700 bill to finance NEW/REAL investment (plant &amp; equipment), etc.

Screw the gamblers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>$700 bill to finance EXISTING property???  This has to exert a depressing effect on the economy.</p>
<p>Why not $700 bill to finance NEW/REAL investment (plant &amp; equipment), etc.</p>
<p>Screw the gamblers.</p>
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		<title>By: UPDATE #2: Calculated Risk Continues his Thoughts on the TARP (or his version of TARP) &#171; &#8230; And the cow goes moo</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/09/23/some-ballpark-bailout-math/#comment-113579</link>
		<dc:creator>UPDATE #2: Calculated Risk Continues his Thoughts on the TARP (or his version of TARP) &#171; &#8230; And the cow goes moo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 18:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Krugman and Brad Setser seem to agree with my suspicion that even paying &#8216;fair&#8217; market prices will be a problem [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Krugman and Brad Setser seem to agree with my suspicion that even paying &#8216;fair&#8217; market prices will be a problem [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John D Crowder</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/09/23/some-ballpark-bailout-math/#comment-113568</link>
		<dc:creator>John D Crowder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 16:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting analysis but;

No one seems to know anything &quot;for sure&quot;.  

Apparently all the King&#039;s horses and all the King&#039;s men really don&#039;t know how to construct anything - only destruct.

So let&#039;s let &quot;the market&quot; play out this lethal scenario and take our hits when/where they occur.

We may still have to face the music regardless of bailing out the losers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting analysis but;</p>
<p>No one seems to know anything &#8220;for sure&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Apparently all the King&#8217;s horses and all the King&#8217;s men really don&#8217;t know how to construct anything &#8211; only destruct.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s let &#8220;the market&#8221; play out this lethal scenario and take our hits when/where they occur.</p>
<p>We may still have to face the music regardless of bailing out the losers.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan von Altendorf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alan von Altendorf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 13:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would like to be shown that I&#039;m wrong. Maybe it&#039;s my skewed view of the world from Houston. Companies have cash. Capitalists like Buffett and Pickens have cash. FT says the S&amp;P 500 have $500+ billion on hand or in short-term notes. Wells Fargo, JPM, Bank of America, Wachovia are well capitalized and solvent. So who&#039;s in trouble? The brokers and hedge funds who placed OTC side-bets and leveraged x 30. They deserve to go out of business. Period.

The crisis “will create a real winner takes all environment,” said Jason Trennert, chief investment strategist at Strategas Research Partners. “Well-run companies not dependent upon credit markets will take market share from companies which aren’t well run and are [dependent on credit].&quot;

http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/09/corporate-america-sits-on-its-cash.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to be shown that I&#8217;m wrong. Maybe it&#8217;s my skewed view of the world from Houston. Companies have cash. Capitalists like Buffett and Pickens have cash. FT says the S&amp;P 500 have $500+ billion on hand or in short-term notes. Wells Fargo, JPM, Bank of America, Wachovia are well capitalized and solvent. So who&#8217;s in trouble? The brokers and hedge funds who placed OTC side-bets and leveraged x 30. They deserve to go out of business. Period.</p>
<p>The crisis “will create a real winner takes all environment,” said Jason Trennert, chief investment strategist at Strategas Research Partners. “Well-run companies not dependent upon credit markets will take market share from companies which aren’t well run and are [dependent on credit].&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/09/corporate-america-sits-on-its-cash.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/09/corporate-america-sits-on-its-cash.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: a</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/09/23/some-ballpark-bailout-math/#comment-113548</link>
		<dc:creator>a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And last week, those came within a hairs breath of collapsing before Treasury came in and gave a FDIC-like guarantee to them.&quot;

I see you read the New York Post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And last week, those came within a hairs breath of collapsing before Treasury came in and gave a FDIC-like guarantee to them.&#8221;</p>
<p>I see you read the New York Post.</p>
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