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	<title>Comments on: Ut-oh &#8230;. exports are starting to fall fast</title>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/11/13/ut-oh-exports-are-starting-to-fall-fast/#comment-119709</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The USA is a high wage Nation?

According to the Mercer Report we are ranked 2oth in Pay to our workers and that does not include other benefits that many &quot;Social&quot; countries give their people such as Universal healthcare, Free Tuition, Free Vocational/Technical training, 50 days a year off including holidays,extensive welfare safety nets ,etc.

The Mercer Survey was from 2006 and indicated that the workers pay was figured with inflation in mind in each country and after-tax income.

Switzerland and Germany had the highest wages in the world. 

Norway, Germany,Switzerland,Spain,Denmark,Sweden,Findland,Japan,Canada,Ireland,Australia,Hong Kong were amoung the countries with higher wages and benefits.

The US life expectency is ranked 48th and falling in the world. US Citizens rank 70th in Healthy living or living without health problems when ranked against the rest of the world.

Parts of the US have third world standards when one looks at the following.

-Life Expectency and health standards
-Debt levels on Federal, state, consumers, US corporations,trade deficits,etc which total over 60 Trillion and climbing rapidly!
-Affordability of College Tuition, we are now losing big-time because of College Expenses.
-Vocational/Technical Training System such as in Germany which produces a high wage and high skill workforce is very weak in the USA.
-The US Infrastructure is falling apart including Roads, Bridges, Dams, Water Systems,Ports,Power supply,etc.
-US healthcare system is substandard
-Us poverty rates are high and in cetain regions of the country the approach third world standards.
IN the richest parts of the country the average life expectency is 90 while in the poorer regions the average life expectency is around 50 and falling!
-Alot to do with the Rich/Poor Gap
-Lack of US manufacturing and now trade deficits even in High Tech products.
-Decreasing Farmland and Trade deficits in Farm Products.
-lack of oil and oil deficits 
-lack of renewable energy plan to replace oil and other fossil fuels.
-9 times per capita person population compared to other western nations and also the highest Correctional Population in the world approaching 8 million)Parole, Prison,House arrest,probation,etc)
-A primary Education systen which is substandard and ranks near the bottom of the industrial world.
-World biggest debtor nation with countries like Germany and Japan buying up our assets making us into a colony of sorts.
-lack of safety nets for population including welfare, training, compensation insurance, unemployment insurance,healthcare,college and technical training,etc which are all weak or non-existing.

Much to do if America is to survive without breaking up into different countries!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The USA is a high wage Nation?</p>
<p>According to the Mercer Report we are ranked 2oth in Pay to our workers and that does not include other benefits that many &#8220;Social&#8221; countries give their people such as Universal healthcare, Free Tuition, Free Vocational/Technical training, 50 days a year off including holidays,extensive welfare safety nets ,etc.</p>
<p>The Mercer Survey was from 2006 and indicated that the workers pay was figured with inflation in mind in each country and after-tax income.</p>
<p>Switzerland and Germany had the highest wages in the world. </p>
<p>Norway, Germany,Switzerland,Spain,Denmark,Sweden,Findland,Japan,Canada,Ireland,Australia,Hong Kong were amoung the countries with higher wages and benefits.</p>
<p>The US life expectency is ranked 48th and falling in the world. US Citizens rank 70th in Healthy living or living without health problems when ranked against the rest of the world.</p>
<p>Parts of the US have third world standards when one looks at the following.</p>
<p>-Life Expectency and health standards<br />
-Debt levels on Federal, state, consumers, US corporations,trade deficits,etc which total over 60 Trillion and climbing rapidly!<br />
-Affordability of College Tuition, we are now losing big-time because of College Expenses.<br />
-Vocational/Technical Training System such as in Germany which produces a high wage and high skill workforce is very weak in the USA.<br />
-The US Infrastructure is falling apart including Roads, Bridges, Dams, Water Systems,Ports,Power supply,etc.<br />
-US healthcare system is substandard<br />
-Us poverty rates are high and in cetain regions of the country the approach third world standards.<br />
IN the richest parts of the country the average life expectency is 90 while in the poorer regions the average life expectency is around 50 and falling!<br />
-Alot to do with the Rich/Poor Gap<br />
-Lack of US manufacturing and now trade deficits even in High Tech products.<br />
-Decreasing Farmland and Trade deficits in Farm Products.<br />
-lack of oil and oil deficits<br />
-lack of renewable energy plan to replace oil and other fossil fuels.<br />
-9 times per capita person population compared to other western nations and also the highest Correctional Population in the world approaching 8 million)Parole, Prison,House arrest,probation,etc)<br />
-A primary Education systen which is substandard and ranks near the bottom of the industrial world.<br />
-World biggest debtor nation with countries like Germany and Japan buying up our assets making us into a colony of sorts.<br />
-lack of safety nets for population including welfare, training, compensation insurance, unemployment insurance,healthcare,college and technical training,etc which are all weak or non-existing.</p>
<p>Much to do if America is to survive without breaking up into different countries!</p>
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		<title>By: Risk Moment RES &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Go big!</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/11/13/ut-oh-exports-are-starting-to-fall-fast/#comment-118863</link>
		<dc:creator>Risk Moment RES &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Go big!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 03:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is the go-to place for all balance-of-payments-related data analysis. Now he has a post up about US exports. Why is this important? Exports have been the one good thing about the US economic situation; in [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] is the go-to place for all balance-of-payments-related data analysis. Now he has a post up about US exports. Why is this important? Exports have been the one good thing about the US economic situation; in [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RebelEconomist</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/11/13/ut-oh-exports-are-starting-to-fall-fast/#comment-118163</link>
		<dc:creator>RebelEconomist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reformer Ray, Sinomania,

You know my opinion already.  Having witnessed the failure of trade barriers to save the British-owned car industry, I am generally against trade barriers, but since China&#039;s exchange rate policy involves its own restriction (ie a closed capital account), China could hardly complain if the US imposed retaliatory restrictions (&lt;a href=&quot;http://reservedplace.blogspot.com/2008/10/just-say-no.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;reserves control&lt;/a&gt;).

I suspect you have seen off Twofish with your facts on the relative importance of manufacturing and finance though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reformer Ray, Sinomania,</p>
<p>You know my opinion already.  Having witnessed the failure of trade barriers to save the British-owned car industry, I am generally against trade barriers, but since China&#8217;s exchange rate policy involves its own restriction (ie a closed capital account), China could hardly complain if the US imposed retaliatory restrictions (<a href="http://reservedplace.blogspot.com/2008/10/just-say-no.html" rel="nofollow">reserves control</a>).</p>
<p>I suspect you have seen off Twofish with your facts on the relative importance of manufacturing and finance though!</p>
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		<title>By: ReformerRay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/11/13/ut-oh-exports-are-starting-to-fall-fast/#comment-118045</link>
		<dc:creator>ReformerRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for Sinomania&#039; contribution.  The only thing missing in these exchanges is the opinions of other people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for Sinomania&#8217; contribution.  The only thing missing in these exchanges is the opinions of other people.</p>
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		<title>By: ReformerRay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/11/13/ut-oh-exports-are-starting-to-fall-fast/#comment-118044</link>
		<dc:creator>ReformerRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sinomania has an excellent post, providing a specific example of the folly of classic Protectionism.  Here I am ain agreement with mainstream international trade economists.  Product specific restrictions on imports are undesirable.

But restrictions on imports that are general, apply to all imports, do not create the same problems.

If these restrictions are applied only to 5 countries, China, Japan, Germany, Canada and Mexico, the U.S. trade deficit could be reduced and finally brought under control.

The only way the large trade deficit will be reduced is by import restrictions of some kind and the scheme I proposed in above posts is the most reasonable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sinomania has an excellent post, providing a specific example of the folly of classic Protectionism.  Here I am ain agreement with mainstream international trade economists.  Product specific restrictions on imports are undesirable.</p>
<p>But restrictions on imports that are general, apply to all imports, do not create the same problems.</p>
<p>If these restrictions are applied only to 5 countries, China, Japan, Germany, Canada and Mexico, the U.S. trade deficit could be reduced and finally brought under control.</p>
<p>The only way the large trade deficit will be reduced is by import restrictions of some kind and the scheme I proposed in above posts is the most reasonable.</p>
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		<title>By: Triple &#8220;Ut-Oh&#8221;: September Trade Release and the End of the Consumer of Last Resort &#124; Economist Blog</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/11/13/ut-oh-exports-are-starting-to-fall-fast/#comment-118018</link>
		<dc:creator>Triple &#8220;Ut-Oh&#8221;: September Trade Release and the End of the Consumer of Last Resort &#124; Economist Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:19:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Setser says &#8220;Ut-Oh&#8221;, beating me to the punch on the September trade release, which showed US exports plunging. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Triple &#8220;Ut-Oh&#8221;: September Trade Release and the End of the Consumer of Last Resort &#124; 1800blogger</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/11/13/ut-oh-exports-are-starting-to-fall-fast/#comment-118017</link>
		<dc:creator>Triple &#8220;Ut-Oh&#8221;: September Trade Release and the End of the Consumer of Last Resort &#124; 1800blogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 14:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Setser says &#8220;Ut-Oh&#8221;, beating me to the punch on the September trade release, which showed US exports plunging. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Setser says &#8220;Ut-Oh&#8221;, beating me to the punch on the September trade release, which showed US exports plunging. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sinomania!</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/11/13/ut-oh-exports-are-starting-to-fall-fast/#comment-117974</link>
		<dc:creator>Sinomania!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 00:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Twofish, ReformerRay - thanks for your responses.  I agree on a product specific basis restraints on China trade won’t jeopardize the whole apple cart.  The potential is there to damage emerging businesses expected in the next investment cycle.  I’m thinking specifically of two areas: solar and wind power.  The infamous financial rescue package includes tax rebate credits for solar and wind installed by individual households, a niche market now but with giant potential.  For an installed wind turbine a family can deduct $4,000 starting next year.  The price of the wind turbine alone has retarded the growth of this business for years (along with zoning restrictions).  But I know I can import wind turbines from China that qualify California and New York state certifications for far less than $4K leaving money left over for a installation, DC convertor, battery bank, etc.  Chinese production of solar and wind products is expected to ramp up significantly next year and into 2010 bring costs (and prices) down further.  However, Congress is mulling new certification provisions for these products and domestic manufacturers (I won’t name names here) are lobbying for a type of “buy America” provision.  That would hurt both the consumer and the development of new businesses around household solar and wind as fewer people are going to install them unless the prices for solar cells and turbines fall enough to break the psychological expense barrier.  I don’t see that happening without Chinese imports so both sides could lose.  Buy America is already costing the Federal government and local cities a fortune for rolling stock.  It costs close to a million dollars for one new articulated “bus rapid transit” bus that could be imported from China (with greater fuel efficiency and more comfort) for less.  That is just one example of the types of restraints that I fear a Democratic Congress and Obama Presidency will employ in the short term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Twofish, ReformerRay &#8211; thanks for your responses.  I agree on a product specific basis restraints on China trade won’t jeopardize the whole apple cart.  The potential is there to damage emerging businesses expected in the next investment cycle.  I’m thinking specifically of two areas: solar and wind power.  The infamous financial rescue package includes tax rebate credits for solar and wind installed by individual households, a niche market now but with giant potential.  For an installed wind turbine a family can deduct $4,000 starting next year.  The price of the wind turbine alone has retarded the growth of this business for years (along with zoning restrictions).  But I know I can import wind turbines from China that qualify California and New York state certifications for far less than $4K leaving money left over for a installation, DC convertor, battery bank, etc.  Chinese production of solar and wind products is expected to ramp up significantly next year and into 2010 bring costs (and prices) down further.  However, Congress is mulling new certification provisions for these products and domestic manufacturers (I won’t name names here) are lobbying for a type of “buy America” provision.  That would hurt both the consumer and the development of new businesses around household solar and wind as fewer people are going to install them unless the prices for solar cells and turbines fall enough to break the psychological expense barrier.  I don’t see that happening without Chinese imports so both sides could lose.  Buy America is already costing the Federal government and local cities a fortune for rolling stock.  It costs close to a million dollars for one new articulated “bus rapid transit” bus that could be imported from China (with greater fuel efficiency and more comfort) for less.  That is just one example of the types of restraints that I fear a Democratic Congress and Obama Presidency will employ in the short term.</p>
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		<title>By: ReformerRay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/11/13/ut-oh-exports-are-starting-to-fall-fast/#comment-117969</link>
		<dc:creator>ReformerRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Industry specific tariffs will be outlawed when the U.S. adopts my scheme.  Twofish&#039;s discussion above provides part of the reason.  The are irrational - depend upon political influence.  Exactly want Adam Smith wanted to abolish by insisting on Free Trade.  Free trade was his way of eliminating tariffs on specific goods or industries.  A much better way has been developed and described above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Industry specific tariffs will be outlawed when the U.S. adopts my scheme.  Twofish&#8217;s discussion above provides part of the reason.  The are irrational &#8211; depend upon political influence.  Exactly want Adam Smith wanted to abolish by insisting on Free Trade.  Free trade was his way of eliminating tariffs on specific goods or industries.  A much better way has been developed and described above.</p>
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		<title>By: ReformerRay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/11/13/ut-oh-exports-are-starting-to-fall-fast/#comment-117966</link>
		<dc:creator>ReformerRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The aboove numbers can be supplemented by looking at the contribution each industry makes to Corporate Profits in the U.S.

Manufacturing contributed over 45% of corporate profits before 1980, but only 19% in 2006.  Finance filled the gap.  As manufacturing declined, Finance grew.  From aroune 5% of corporate profits in 1980 to 26% in 2006.

The problem we are having today is that the finance system is no longer contributing to corporate profits as it was in 2006.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The aboove numbers can be supplemented by looking at the contribution each industry makes to Corporate Profits in the U.S.</p>
<p>Manufacturing contributed over 45% of corporate profits before 1980, but only 19% in 2006.  Finance filled the gap.  As manufacturing declined, Finance grew.  From aroune 5% of corporate profits in 1980 to 26% in 2006.</p>
<p>The problem we are having today is that the finance system is no longer contributing to corporate profits as it was in 2006.</p>
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