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	<title>Comments on: Bretton Woods 2 and the current crisis: any link?</title>
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		<title>By: Brad Setser: Follow the Money &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Read Brender and Pisani’s “Globalised finance and its collapse”</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/12/01/bretton-woods-2-and-the-current-crisis-any-link/#comment-132076</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Setser: Follow the Money &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Read Brender and Pisani’s “Globalised finance and its collapse”</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I am &#8212; no surprise &#8212; sympathetic to this argument. I (independently) made a somewhat similar argument back in November:* [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brad Setser: Follow the Money &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Different conceptions of China&#8217;s role in the global financial system</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/12/01/bretton-woods-2-and-the-current-crisis-any-link/#comment-130362</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Setser: Follow the Money &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Different conceptions of China&#8217;s role in the global financial system</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 11:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] were stuck with a lot of credit risk from lending to increasingly indebted American households, as the world’s central banks were far more willing to take currency risk than credit risk. And now – as Martin Wolf likes to note – there is a risk that a new buildup of dollar (and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] were stuck with a lot of credit risk from lending to increasingly indebted American households, as the world’s central banks were far more willing to take currency risk than credit risk. And now – as Martin Wolf likes to note – there is a risk that a new buildup of dollar (and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Links: 2008-12-03 - Credit Writedowns</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/12/01/bretton-woods-2-and-the-current-crisis-any-link/#comment-129784</link>
		<dc:creator>Links: 2008-12-03 - Credit Writedowns</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Brad Setser: Follow the Money » Blog Archive » Bretton Woods 2 and the current crisis: any link? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Global imbalances and the crisis: A solution in search of a problem &#171; economics</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/12/01/bretton-woods-2-and-the-current-crisis-any-link/#comment-128918</link>
		<dc:creator>Global imbalances and the crisis: A solution in search of a problem &#171; economics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Apr 2009 03:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Package and Economic Update,” U.S. Treasury press release, November 12.  Sester, Brad (2008) “Bretton Woods 2 and the Current Crisis: Any Link?&#8220;, Council on Foreign [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Package and Economic Update,” U.S. Treasury press release, November 12.  Sester, Brad (2008) “Bretton Woods 2 and the Current Crisis: Any Link?&#8220;, Council on Foreign [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Size of Government, Part Deux: A Few More Numbers &#171; Random Musings of a Deranged Mind</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/12/01/bretton-woods-2-and-the-current-crisis-any-link/#comment-128646</link>
		<dc:creator>The Size of Government, Part Deux: A Few More Numbers &#171; Random Musings of a Deranged Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 00:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] federal debt, followed by the low Treasury yields generated by the &#8220;Great Moderation&#8221; massive imports of foreign [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] federal debt, followed by the low Treasury yields generated by the &#8220;Great Moderation&#8221; massive imports of foreign [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GloboTrends Community</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/12/01/bretton-woods-2-and-the-current-crisis-any-link/#comment-122482</link>
		<dc:creator>GloboTrends Community</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 23:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Central banks didn&#8217;t buy many subprime mortgages or CDOs of CDOs, and thus were not directly financing the riskiest borrowers in the US economy.  They needed some accomplices to finance high levels of US consumption when the US fiscal deficit came down after 2004. Central banks didn&#8217;t lend to borrowers trying to home that they really couldn&#8217;t afford, or to Americans borrowing against their homes to finance a vacation that they couldn&#8217;t really afford. The entire process could only be sustained as long as private intermediaries were willing to take th.... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Central banks didn&#8217;t buy many subprime mortgages or CDOs of CDOs, and thus were not directly financing the riskiest borrowers in the US economy.  They needed some accomplices to finance high levels of US consumption when the US fiscal deficit came down after 2004. Central banks didn&#8217;t lend to borrowers trying to home that they really couldn&#8217;t afford, or to Americans borrowing against their homes to finance a vacation that they couldn&#8217;t really afford. The entire process could only be sustained as long as private intermediaries were willing to take th&#8230;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: GOLDWILY &#187; Stay Informed - CFR Blog</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/12/01/bretton-woods-2-and-the-current-crisis-any-link/#comment-122064</link>
		<dc:creator>GOLDWILY &#187; Stay Informed - CFR Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Bretton Woods 2 and the current crisis: any link? [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brad Setser: Follow the Money &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The global savings glut and the current crisis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/12/01/bretton-woods-2-and-the-current-crisis-any-link/#comment-121933</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Setser: Follow the Money &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The global savings glut and the current crisis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:27:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Central banks didn&#8217;t buy many subprime mortgages or CDOs of CDOs, and thus were not directly financing the riskiest borrowers in the US economy. They needed some accomplices to finance high levels of US consumption when the US fiscal deficit came down after 2004. Central banks didn&#8217;t lend to borrowers trying to home that they really couldn&#8217;t afford, or to Americans borrowing against their homes to finance a vacation that they couldn&#8217;t really afford. The entire process could only be sustained as long as private intermediaries were willing to take th.... [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Central banks didn&#8217;t buy many subprime mortgages or CDOs of CDOs, and thus were not directly financing the riskiest borrowers in the US economy. They needed some accomplices to finance high levels of US consumption when the US fiscal deficit came down after 2004. Central banks didn&#8217;t lend to borrowers trying to home that they really couldn&#8217;t afford, or to Americans borrowing against their homes to finance a vacation that they couldn&#8217;t really afford. The entire process could only be sustained as long as private intermediaries were willing to take th&#8230;. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: ReformerRay</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/12/01/bretton-woods-2-and-the-current-crisis-any-link/#comment-119740</link>
		<dc:creator>ReformerRay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 01:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad says that the willingness of foreign central banks to purchase U.S. treasury certificates limited the opportuntity for U.S. financial interests to earn large profits by buying treasuries, thus the moved into more speculative and dangerous and profitable activities.

The important question is: &quot;Where and how did the foreign central banks get the dollars they invested in Treasuries?&quot;  The answer, of course, is from the U.S. trade deficit.

Most U.S. economists, including Brad, see the trade deficit level as controlled by the activities in the U.S. financial system, including the level of domestic saving.

I do not.  For years, I have followed the implications of the assumption that the level of the U.S. trade deficit is controlled by market just like any other good or service.  I agree that the market is rigged.  That does not change causation.  Whatever controls the market for overseas goods for sale in the U.S. and for U.S. goods for sale in foreign lands, it is the interaction of the markets that control the size of the trade deficit.

All the financial issues that Brad discusses are derived from the results of market choices made by real people.

When the situation is viewed from this perspective, one does not blame a foreign country for investing funds they earned by exporting for using these funds as they see fit.  Once the money is sent overseas to pay for imports, it is overseas property.

Like so many other practices that bedevil the U.S., purchase of Treasury certificates with money earned from excess imports was pioneered by the Japanese.  In the 1980&#039;s, the U.S. public grew insenced when it was revealed that a Japanese businessman was contemplating purchasing Rockfeller Center.  After that, the money sent to Japan to pay for imports in excess of exports was quietly invested in Treasury certificates, which the general public would ignore.

The unbalanced system is sustained by the round trip of dollars.  But the flow begins in the U.S.  If the round trip is causing problems, the place to correct the problem is where it begins, with the excess purchases of imports over sales of exports.

Trying to interupt the flow in midstream, after it is in Japan or China, is silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad says that the willingness of foreign central banks to purchase U.S. treasury certificates limited the opportuntity for U.S. financial interests to earn large profits by buying treasuries, thus the moved into more speculative and dangerous and profitable activities.</p>
<p>The important question is: &#8220;Where and how did the foreign central banks get the dollars they invested in Treasuries?&#8221;  The answer, of course, is from the U.S. trade deficit.</p>
<p>Most U.S. economists, including Brad, see the trade deficit level as controlled by the activities in the U.S. financial system, including the level of domestic saving.</p>
<p>I do not.  For years, I have followed the implications of the assumption that the level of the U.S. trade deficit is controlled by market just like any other good or service.  I agree that the market is rigged.  That does not change causation.  Whatever controls the market for overseas goods for sale in the U.S. and for U.S. goods for sale in foreign lands, it is the interaction of the markets that control the size of the trade deficit.</p>
<p>All the financial issues that Brad discusses are derived from the results of market choices made by real people.</p>
<p>When the situation is viewed from this perspective, one does not blame a foreign country for investing funds they earned by exporting for using these funds as they see fit.  Once the money is sent overseas to pay for imports, it is overseas property.</p>
<p>Like so many other practices that bedevil the U.S., purchase of Treasury certificates with money earned from excess imports was pioneered by the Japanese.  In the 1980&#8217;s, the U.S. public grew insenced when it was revealed that a Japanese businessman was contemplating purchasing Rockfeller Center.  After that, the money sent to Japan to pay for imports in excess of exports was quietly invested in Treasury certificates, which the general public would ignore.</p>
<p>The unbalanced system is sustained by the round trip of dollars.  But the flow begins in the U.S.  If the round trip is causing problems, the place to correct the problem is where it begins, with the excess purchases of imports over sales of exports.</p>
<p>Trying to interupt the flow in midstream, after it is in Japan or China, is silly.</p>
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		<title>By: Fed Watch: Potentially Very Bad Policy - See-news</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2008/12/01/bretton-woods-2-and-the-current-crisis-any-link/#comment-119668</link>
		<dc:creator>Fed Watch: Potentially Very Bad Policy - See-news</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 07:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] you don’t believe those imbalances are at or near the heart of the current crisis, I urge you to  read Brad Setser. Separately, the Federal Reserve in 1998 took on the job of financial market guardian with the LTCM [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] you don’t believe those imbalances are at or near the heart of the current crisis, I urge you to  read Brad Setser. Separately, the Federal Reserve in 1998 took on the job of financial market guardian with the LTCM [...]</p>
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