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		<title>By: TheTradingReport &#187; Blog Archive &#187; U.S. Trade Deficit with China Widened in March</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2009/05/06/greenish-shoots-in-east-asia/#comment-130206</link>
		<dc:creator>TheTradingReport &#187; Blog Archive &#187; U.S. Trade Deficit with China Widened in March</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 14:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] That has happened to some degree, as colleagues James Areddy and Timothy Aeppel wrote last month. But it still looks like it will be a long time before it has a meaningful impact on the U.S. economy, as Council on Foreign Relations economist Brad Setser noted recently. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] That has happened to some degree, as colleagues James Areddy and Timothy Aeppel wrote last month. But it still looks like it will be a long time before it has a meaningful impact on the U.S. economy, as Council on Foreign Relations economist Brad Setser noted recently. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: U.S. Trade Deficit with China Widened in March - MarketBeat - WSJ</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2009/05/06/greenish-shoots-in-east-asia/#comment-130203</link>
		<dc:creator>U.S. Trade Deficit with China Widened in March - MarketBeat - WSJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 14:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] That has happened to some degree, as colleagues James Areddy and Timothy Aeppel wrote last month. But it still looks like it will be a long time before it has a meaningful impact on the U.S. economy, as Council on Foreign Relations economist Brad Setser noted recently. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] That has happened to some degree, as colleagues James Areddy and Timothy Aeppel wrote last month. But it still looks like it will be a long time before it has a meaningful impact on the U.S. economy, as Council on Foreign Relations economist Brad Setser noted recently. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: laura &#38; tony &#187; 泡泡？</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2009/05/06/greenish-shoots-in-east-asia/#comment-130172</link>
		<dc:creator>laura &#38; tony &#187; 泡泡？</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 10:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On the other side, the only hard evidence available seems to be just that: collapsing exports throughout Asia (and the suggestion that even this trend could be reversing?) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On the other side, the only hard evidence available seems to be just that: collapsing exports throughout Asia (and the suggestion that even this trend could be reversing?) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: q</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2009/05/06/greenish-shoots-in-east-asia/#comment-130109</link>
		<dc:creator>q</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 03:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it will succeed if the bank losses are not horridly worse than the stress tests say.

by the end of 2010 the banks&#039; books will be much cleaner, mainly because the bulk of the losses will have been taken by then.  at that  point it should be easy for the banks to raise private capital.  what&#039;s keeping private capital out of the system right now is fear -- people are afraid that losses are going to be much deeper than expected, or people are afraid of a debt deflationary depression.  

if we get past that, the banks should be able to raise a couple hundred billion in private capital if necessary, and then they will be well capitalized.

for instance bank of america&#039;s market cap is 80B right now and an unencumbered BAC would be worth probably around 250B.  they could easily raise 50B if they could convince people that after the raise their balance sheet would be clean.  that will happen if there are no serious negative surprises in the next year or so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it will succeed if the bank losses are not horridly worse than the stress tests say.</p>
<p>by the end of 2010 the banks&#8217; books will be much cleaner, mainly because the bulk of the losses will have been taken by then.  at that  point it should be easy for the banks to raise private capital.  what&#8217;s keeping private capital out of the system right now is fear &#8212; people are afraid that losses are going to be much deeper than expected, or people are afraid of a debt deflationary depression.  </p>
<p>if we get past that, the banks should be able to raise a couple hundred billion in private capital if necessary, and then they will be well capitalized.</p>
<p>for instance bank of america&#8217;s market cap is 80B right now and an unencumbered BAC would be worth probably around 250B.  they could easily raise 50B if they could convince people that after the raise their balance sheet would be clean.  that will happen if there are no serious negative surprises in the next year or so.</p>
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		<title>By: Cedric Regula</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2009/05/06/greenish-shoots-in-east-asia/#comment-130108</link>
		<dc:creator>Cedric Regula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 01:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Roubini has been wondering about the Cabbage Gap as well and wrote a great big article about it.

http://www.rgemonitor.com/blog/roubini/256694/ten_reasons_why_the_stress_tests_are_schmess_tests_and_why_the_current_muddle-through_approach_to_the_banking_crisis_may_not_succeed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like Roubini has been wondering about the Cabbage Gap as well and wrote a great big article about it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.rgemonitor.com/blog/roubini/256694/ten_reasons_why_the_stress_tests_are_schmess_tests_and_why_the_current_muddle-through_approach_to_the_banking_crisis_may_not_succeed" rel="nofollow">http://www.rgemonitor.com/blog/roubini/256694/ten_reasons_why_the_stress_tests_are_schmess_tests_and_why_the_current_muddle-through_approach_to_the_banking_crisis_may_not_succeed</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cedric Regula</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2009/05/06/greenish-shoots-in-east-asia/#comment-130104</link>
		<dc:creator>Cedric Regula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 18:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, post Stress Test, I&#039;ve begun to wonder about the Cabbage Gap.

How did we just go from the something like $2.7 Trillion in US banks losses estimated by Roubini and now the IMF...to $78 Billion in capital needed to withstand a worsening economy per the stress test results????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, post Stress Test, I&#8217;ve begun to wonder about the Cabbage Gap.</p>
<p>How did we just go from the something like $2.7 Trillion in US banks losses estimated by Roubini and now the IMF&#8230;to $78 Billion in capital needed to withstand a worsening economy per the stress test results????</p>
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		<title>By: jonathan</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2009/05/06/greenish-shoots-in-east-asia/#comment-130092</link>
		<dc:creator>jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 20:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the headline to this post and decided to cook some hollow greens with hot sauce. That and some ma pa tofu and I&#039;m set for the night. Thanks!

Oh, on point, I find it interesting that calling the turn is such an obsession in the world. I assume that&#039;s a function of the 24/7 news cycle, that we become more and more involved in minutiae. Did you see the Kentucky Derby? Around the first turn the winner was about 5 lengths behind the field and looked like a nag on the way to the glue factory. Where are we in this race? Not in the homestretch. My guess is somewhere past the first turn but I don&#039;t see us as being very far into the backstretch. There&#039;s a lot of race left.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the headline to this post and decided to cook some hollow greens with hot sauce. That and some ma pa tofu and I&#8217;m set for the night. Thanks!</p>
<p>Oh, on point, I find it interesting that calling the turn is such an obsession in the world. I assume that&#8217;s a function of the 24/7 news cycle, that we become more and more involved in minutiae. Did you see the Kentucky Derby? Around the first turn the winner was about 5 lengths behind the field and looked like a nag on the way to the glue factory. Where are we in this race? Not in the homestretch. My guess is somewhere past the first turn but I don&#8217;t see us as being very far into the backstretch. There&#8217;s a lot of race left.</p>
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		<title>By: Cedric Regula</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2009/05/06/greenish-shoots-in-east-asia/#comment-130090</link>
		<dc:creator>Cedric Regula</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 19:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The CEO of Nordic Am Tanker, lessor of oil supertankers, recently told investors that daily supertanker rates have gone from 40K/day to under 10k/day. The excess tanker capacity is still being used to store excess above ground oil, waiting for someone to buy it.

Can&#039;t imagine new orders for ships are happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CEO of Nordic Am Tanker, lessor of oil supertankers, recently told investors that daily supertanker rates have gone from 40K/day to under 10k/day. The excess tanker capacity is still being used to store excess above ground oil, waiting for someone to buy it.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t imagine new orders for ships are happening.</p>
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		<title>By: bsetser</title>
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		<dc:creator>bsetser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 18:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thomas --thanks for the detailed data work</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thomas &#8211;thanks for the detailed data work</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2009/05/06/greenish-shoots-in-east-asia/#comment-130088</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 18:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Checked March figures for comparison, and ships were also up big time yoy (even more in March than in April). The other categories I listed were somewhat worse in March, i.e. April did see some improvement. 

But in any case, overall Korean exports in both March and April would be a lot weaker if it wasn&#039;t for the &quot;unusual&quot; increase of ship deliveries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Checked March figures for comparison, and ships were also up big time yoy (even more in March than in April). The other categories I listed were somewhat worse in March, i.e. April did see some improvement. </p>
<p>But in any case, overall Korean exports in both March and April would be a lot weaker if it wasn&#8217;t for the &#8220;unusual&#8221; increase of ship deliveries.</p>
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