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		<title>By: Russia Sheds Dollars for Euros &#124; Daily Finance News - Forex Stock Market</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2009/05/18/russia%e2%80%99s-waning-appetite-for-dollars/#comment-135596</link>
		<dc:creator>Russia Sheds Dollars for Euros &#124; Daily Finance News - Forex Stock Market</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 01:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Moscow Times (via Brad Setser) The euro&#8217;s share in Russia&#8217;s forex reserves, the world&#8217;s third-largest, overtook [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Moscow Times (via Brad Setser) The euro&#8217;s share in Russia&#8217;s forex reserves, the world&#8217;s third-largest, overtook [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roubini y el final de la hegemonía del dólar, de S. McCoy en El Confidencial &#124; Caffè Reggio</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2009/05/18/russia%e2%80%99s-waning-appetite-for-dollars/#comment-134682</link>
		<dc:creator>Roubini y el final de la hegemonía del dólar, de S. McCoy en El Confidencial &#124; Caffè Reggio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a cierre de 2008 había más euros que dólares en las reservas rusas, un 47,5% contra un 41,5%, algo que el especialista Brad Setser atribuye más a razones de proximidad comercial que de verdadera preocupación en las autoridades de aquel [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a cierre de 2008 había más euros que dólares en las reservas rusas, un 47,5% contra un 41,5%, algo que el especialista Brad Setser atribuye más a razones de proximidad comercial que de verdadera preocupación en las autoridades de aquel [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CAMP</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2009/05/18/russia%e2%80%99s-waning-appetite-for-dollars/#comment-130795</link>
		<dc:creator>CAMP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 03:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, Mr. Cheney has certainly reclaimed the stage since I posted.  He evidently sees his efforts as central to the survival of the West.  My point was not, necessarily, to suggest that  Cheney defeated the Russian version of &quot;How To Spend It&quot; with a few well-timed &quot;sell orders&quot; on the LIFFE, or a fabulous trading tip to Silvio which bolstered the weak finances of a friend at no cost to the US Treasury.  Rather, I am frustrated that so much of the discussion of the US financial performance is narrowly focussed on regulatory failures in the government-backed mortgage sector.   These loans are small potatoes, no matter how many are written.   While 30x leverage makes an economy vulnerable, was it the sufficient condition for the financial panic that followed?  There seems to be little sense of the interplay of the election, where surely Cheney was not a disinterested bystander, with  the condition of commodities markets where Russia was flush and food riots threatened in the poorer neighborhoods.  USEFUL-IDIOT&#039;s question &quot;how did he get it up&quot; is very funny.  I will say that I could have retired had I bought oil and oil service stocks on the day Cheney convened his secret energy advisory panel.   His management of the first Homeland Investment Act from the Vice President&#039;s office, on its own, proved he was a more able Treasury Secretary, part-time than any of Bush&#039;s full-time appointments.  I think he saw lower energy prices helping the election outcome and failed to foresee the mayhem of imploding hedge funds as the buoy to Obama&#039;s fortunes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, Mr. Cheney has certainly reclaimed the stage since I posted.  He evidently sees his efforts as central to the survival of the West.  My point was not, necessarily, to suggest that  Cheney defeated the Russian version of &#8220;How To Spend It&#8221; with a few well-timed &#8220;sell orders&#8221; on the LIFFE, or a fabulous trading tip to Silvio which bolstered the weak finances of a friend at no cost to the US Treasury.  Rather, I am frustrated that so much of the discussion of the US financial performance is narrowly focussed on regulatory failures in the government-backed mortgage sector.   These loans are small potatoes, no matter how many are written.   While 30x leverage makes an economy vulnerable, was it the sufficient condition for the financial panic that followed?  There seems to be little sense of the interplay of the election, where surely Cheney was not a disinterested bystander, with  the condition of commodities markets where Russia was flush and food riots threatened in the poorer neighborhoods.  USEFUL-IDIOT&#8217;s question &#8220;how did he get it up&#8221; is very funny.  I will say that I could have retired had I bought oil and oil service stocks on the day Cheney convened his secret energy advisory panel.   His management of the first Homeland Investment Act from the Vice President&#8217;s office, on its own, proved he was a more able Treasury Secretary, part-time than any of Bush&#8217;s full-time appointments.  I think he saw lower energy prices helping the election outcome and failed to foresee the mayhem of imploding hedge funds as the buoy to Obama&#8217;s fortunes.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Nunn</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2009/05/18/russia%e2%80%99s-waning-appetite-for-dollars/#comment-130723</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Nunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 21:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks, I understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks, I understand.</p>
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		<title>By: bsetser</title>
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		<dc:creator>bsetser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 19:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian you are right -- 

but the key thing is that my measure for Agencies almost certainly overstates Russia&#039;s current holdings.  Russia has run its holdings of s-term agencies down to zero.  so all of the remaining bonds in the &quot;Agencies&quot; category are long-term bonds.   The US data would only capture their sale on the secondary market if Russia initially sold those bonds to a US domiciled investor.   If Russia sold those bonds to a UK bank and the UK bank sold them to a US bank, the US data wouldn&#039;t show any Russian sales -- only the sale of the a bond by a UK investor to a US investor.  B/c of this, my estimate -- which is based on the TIC data -- likely understates russia&#039;s agency sales and thus overstates it US holdings. 

it though is also possible that Russia ran down its dollar holdigns more than it wanted in q4 08 when its reserves were bleeding and it subsequently has reloaded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian you are right &#8212; </p>
<p>but the key thing is that my measure for Agencies almost certainly overstates Russia&#8217;s current holdings.  Russia has run its holdings of s-term agencies down to zero.  so all of the remaining bonds in the &#8220;Agencies&#8221; category are long-term bonds.   The US data would only capture their sale on the secondary market if Russia initially sold those bonds to a US domiciled investor.   If Russia sold those bonds to a UK bank and the UK bank sold them to a US bank, the US data wouldn&#8217;t show any Russian sales &#8212; only the sale of the a bond by a UK investor to a US investor.  B/c of this, my estimate &#8212; which is based on the TIC data &#8212; likely understates russia&#8217;s agency sales and thus overstates it US holdings. </p>
<p>it though is also possible that Russia ran down its dollar holdigns more than it wanted in q4 08 when its reserves were bleeding and it subsequently has reloaded.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Nunn</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2009/05/18/russia%e2%80%99s-waning-appetite-for-dollars/#comment-130715</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Nunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 18:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being rather naive, I could use some help understanding the graph. I assume &quot;Treasuries&quot; and &quot;Agencies&quot; are US denominated reserves. As I read the graph, The total of US reserves is the highest since early 2005 and stands currently around 55%. Where have i gone wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being rather naive, I could use some help understanding the graph. I assume &#8220;Treasuries&#8221; and &#8220;Agencies&#8221; are US denominated reserves. As I read the graph, The total of US reserves is the highest since early 2005 and stands currently around 55%. Where have i gone wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: PMOK</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2009/05/18/russia%e2%80%99s-waning-appetite-for-dollars/#comment-130695</link>
		<dc:creator>PMOK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 13:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just curious, but is there ever a thread around here any more that isn&#039;t comprised primarily of:

1.  The U.S. is doing it wrong
2.  China is doing it right
3.  Russia, look out for &#039;em!
4.  The U.S. is goin&#039; down
5.  The dollar is going to &quot;collapse&quot;
6.  Did I mention the U.S. is doing it wrong?
7.  Did I mention China is doing it right?
8.  America is a warmongering and wasteful nation, oh and it&#039;s also doing everything wrong and has no chance to doing anything right - that&#039;s how wrong America is doing it
9.  China - doin&#039; it right even more now than 5 seconds ago.
10.  Collapse of the dollar.  Any time now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just curious, but is there ever a thread around here any more that isn&#8217;t comprised primarily of:</p>
<p>1.  The U.S. is doing it wrong<br />
2.  China is doing it right<br />
3.  Russia, look out for &#8216;em!<br />
4.  The U.S. is goin&#8217; down<br />
5.  The dollar is going to &#8220;collapse&#8221;<br />
6.  Did I mention the U.S. is doing it wrong?<br />
7.  Did I mention China is doing it right?<br />
8.  America is a warmongering and wasteful nation, oh and it&#8217;s also doing everything wrong and has no chance to doing anything right &#8211; that&#8217;s how wrong America is doing it<br />
9.  China &#8211; doin&#8217; it right even more now than 5 seconds ago.<br />
10.  Collapse of the dollar.  Any time now.</p>
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		<title>By: Rien Huizer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2009/05/18/russia%e2%80%99s-waning-appetite-for-dollars/#comment-130682</link>
		<dc:creator>Rien Huizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 01:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Englishmen etc,
 
A EUR breakup is neither desirable nor likely. The very strong tensions present in the EU regarding (1) stimulus and deficits (2) responsibility for cross border consumer banking (3) financial system supervision and architecture can all be solved if/when Germany adopts a role with greater responsibility and, alas, assertiveness. The first is on ice until the elections later this year and the latter suffers from some imperfections in Germany&#039;s past. Patience please. No one is minding either deficit limits or competition policy. Anymore. And, no one is working on enlargement either. Suspensions may be more likely..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Englishmen etc,</p>
<p>A EUR breakup is neither desirable nor likely. The very strong tensions present in the EU regarding (1) stimulus and deficits (2) responsibility for cross border consumer banking (3) financial system supervision and architecture can all be solved if/when Germany adopts a role with greater responsibility and, alas, assertiveness. The first is on ice until the elections later this year and the latter suffers from some imperfections in Germany&#8217;s past. Patience please. No one is minding either deficit limits or competition policy. Anymore. And, no one is working on enlargement either. Suspensions may be more likely..</p>
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		<title>By: Rien Huizer</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2009/05/18/russia%e2%80%99s-waning-appetite-for-dollars/#comment-130681</link>
		<dc:creator>Rien Huizer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 01:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gillies,

Thanks for linking to the respected mr Mc Williams&#039; article. His purpose must have been to demonstrate the impossibility of ditching the Euro. But his last sentence is fine: Strangulation. That is precisely what will happen to small unruly economies, but they can take pride in having contributed to the ECB&#039;s credibility, which is good for the long term</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gillies,</p>
<p>Thanks for linking to the respected mr Mc Williams&#8217; article. His purpose must have been to demonstrate the impossibility of ditching the Euro. But his last sentence is fine: Strangulation. That is precisely what will happen to small unruly economies, but they can take pride in having contributed to the ECB&#8217;s credibility, which is good for the long term</p>
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		<title>By: WStroupe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.cfr.org/setser/2009/05/18/russia%e2%80%99s-waning-appetite-for-dollars/#comment-130673</link>
		<dc:creator>WStroupe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 22:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;conspiracy theory is the attempt to penetrate the secrecy which is an invariable aspect of all conspiracies, successful or unsuccessful.&quot;

Yeah. Except not everything in politics and geopolitics and finance and economics IS a conspiracy or secretive or spy-vs-spy tricky-dickey strategy. A lot of it is simply stuff that happens, for any number of various logical and knowable reasons, and then all the players get to react to it in their various ways.

The idea that Dickey Cheney popped last summer&#039;s oil price bubble to pay back the Russians for invading Georgia is ludicrous in the extreme.

Of course, Dickey could be a secret member of the Pentavlet, I suppose. Does anyone know, has Dickey ever been to Colorado and The Meadows????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;conspiracy theory is the attempt to penetrate the secrecy which is an invariable aspect of all conspiracies, successful or unsuccessful.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah. Except not everything in politics and geopolitics and finance and economics IS a conspiracy or secretive or spy-vs-spy tricky-dickey strategy. A lot of it is simply stuff that happens, for any number of various logical and knowable reasons, and then all the players get to react to it in their various ways.</p>
<p>The idea that Dickey Cheney popped last summer&#8217;s oil price bubble to pay back the Russians for invading Georgia is ludicrous in the extreme.</p>
<p>Of course, Dickey could be a secret member of the Pentavlet, I suppose. Does anyone know, has Dickey ever been to Colorado and The Meadows????</p>
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